What to do if i don't have a joiner?

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Legolas
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What to do if i don't have a joiner?

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How can I true up the front and back plates with no light
coming through if I don't have a joiner? Can I use a 2x4
with sand paper on it? Problem is some 2x4's aren't straight.

Any other ideas?
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Shooting board and a hand plane.
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If the gap is wide you might want to hand plane to start but to get really flat you need a flat surface. I use my Veritas straight edge from Lee Valley when I need to. I get close clamp the halves together put PSA paper on the straight edge, cross hatch the edge and sand off the lines. This is the tool I use (others use a 24" level if the edge is flat enough) :
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Cast iron wing or top of a table saw and sandpaper.

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I mostly use a plane and a shooting board, but I also have a 2' * 4" tempered piece of plate glass that I used sticky sandpaper on. I would hold the two plates together and sand. If after sanding and l ended up with gaps on the ends, I put a little bit of tape under the glass in the center and sanded some more. I did 6 or 8 plates that way.
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johnnparchem wrote:I mostly use a plane and a shooting board, but I also have a 2' * 4" tempered piece of plate glass that I used sticky sandpaper on. I would hold the two plates together and sand. If after sanding and l ended up with gaps on the ends, I put a little bit of tape under the glass in the center and sanded some more. I did 6 or 8 plates that way.
I use to do the table saw and plate glass style but I would end up with gaps on the end like John. The straight edge eliminated that for me and took it off just as quick.
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While the joint can be made by sanding, I think a better joint is made by a planed surface. It is well worth the effort to learn to sharpen ,set up a plane and use it to do the edges for the joint. Use a cheap or junk top and practice, practice until one gets it.
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I love this forum. Thank you to everyone so wiling to share
their ideas. I'm a new builder and need lots of help but it
makes it so much fun when you guys care enough to
answer questions.....
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As you get more into it you will acquire the tooling.
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