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Douglas Fir for bracing wood?
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2026 10:24 pm
by Kevin Sjostrand
I came across some straight grain quarter sawn (about 80 to 90 degree) Douglas fir today. They are 1.5" squares about 4 ft long each.
There are about 16 lines per inch.
I'm thinking I can use this for braces. These are older stock for sure. A small knot in 2 or 3 places that can be cut out.
I've read that doug fir is heavier than spruce by about 15% but stiffer and stronger.
I could do 3 or 4 guitars with these,
What do you all think? The braces could probably be narrower possibly not as tall as spruce would need to be.
Re: Douglas Fir for bracing wood?
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2026 5:11 pm
by Kevin Sjostrand
I just cut some of the fir and compared it to Sitka spruce.
Results with what spruce I have left.
Sitka spruce: 3/4" x 3/8" x 20" = 44.5 grams
Douglas Fir: 5/8" x 3/8" x 20" (2 pieces) one at 44.5 gr and one at 42.5 gr.
The reason the fir is cut at 5/8" tall is I cut a 1 3/8" strip in half.
Now I cut a fir strip that matches the spruce in size and the weight on this one is 48.0 gr.
So the fir comes out 3.5 grams heavier. That's not bad. If I use the fir at 5/16" wide I'm betting it will be darn close to the spruce in weight, and it will be more stiff.
Percentage is fir is about 8% heavier.
I think I will use it on the next guitar and see how it works.
I have enough for at least 4 guitars 😁
It will be awhile before the next one gets started.
Re: Douglas Fir for bracing wood?
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 12:05 pm
by Stray Feathers
Kevin, Douglas-fir (correctly spelled with a hyphen, since it is not a true fir, closer to hemlock) is very stiff and there is lots online about using it for bracewood. One interesting discussion here, including Douglass Scott, a very successful classical builder who lives in the same town as I do (though I have not met him):
https://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/ ... hp?t=97471
Some of the discussion is over my head but I think you are figuring some of this stuff out yourself. I would not hesitate to try it; I have a couple of D-fir tops in waiting. And Dean Derby, on this forum, has made some guitars entirely of D-fir (not sure of bracing) and may contribute here. Bruce W.
Re: Douglas Fir for bracing wood?
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 2:03 pm
by Kevin Sjostrand
Bruce
Excellent info and commentary on the fir.
I am going to use it on the next guitar which will probably be a Mayan Walnut OM with a redwood top. And Fir braces! We'll call it an experiment.
Re: Douglas Fir for bracing wood?
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2026 11:30 pm
by phavriluk
Most of the 'sacred' woods we use were once put to use because they (1) worked just fine and (2) were cheap. If I had some good-looking Douglas fir I'd use it in a heartbeat.
Anybody who repairs guitars well knows the junk factories bury inside their guitars, and you're way, way, ahead of that game.