not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

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nkwak
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not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

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Things have been really slow since Halloween and the holidays really put the brakes on things but I think my rosette is nearly there. There's just a little bit of filling to do; the cedar tore out on the outer ring where the bit dug into the grain.

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I wish I'd taken a "before" picture of what I started with last night. About 3 weeks ago I glued everything in and used WAY too much CA glue. The purfling strips were standing about 2mm proud of the top and the rosewood was white in spots. Thankfully, my "mentor" (he hates being called that) had me shellac everything beforehand and be patient as I sanded away. I don't want to jinx what's next but I still want to do a rosewood/BWB inlay along the centerline of my back too. That should take quite a while given my track record.

Meanwhile, I've got "home work" to do after I tune up some tools.
~ Neil
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

Post by naccoachbob »

Neil, how do you feel about it when you stand back a bit from it? It seems barely noticeable to me, took a while to see it.
I'm doing a 4-ring rosette and had chunks of the Lutz spruce tear out as well. Still have one spot to resolve. But like you, I can see it.
The top really does look pretty though. So the rosette will just be a personal reminder to you, and probably not to many others.
What is the back to be made of?
Bob
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

Post by Tony_in_NYC »

coachbob is right. I cant see it without really looking...and I am not sure that what I am seeing is not due to looking at it on my phone. I think it will look fine when it has finish on it.
Dont beat yourself up over it.
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

Post by enalnitram »

2mm proud of the top is not a big deal, you could knock that off with a scraper in a minute. a rosette that looks like this, for an early effort is great! if you had not said there was some kinda problem, I would not have noticed.
nkwak
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

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Thanks, guys. I actually am proud of it and though it really doesn't bother all that much I did save the 2 little errant shreds of cedar and taped them to the corner of the soundboard. They're bigger than the void though because the purfling now occupies much of the space where the chip out occurred. I may or may not sand them down to fit or I might just mix some cedar sawdust with CA glue.

BTW, the back and sides are second grade Honduran mahogany.
~ Neil
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

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I would try to splice them back in. The sawdust trick doesn't work well on light-colored woods as well as it does on ebony and rosewood. Otherwise, the rosettes look great! Nice work!
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

Post by tippie53 »

I agree 100% with runningdog . I just hate to see CA used on a rosette , there really is no need to . Now I will pose this to Runningdog . I have found that is you do need to fill have you ever used sanding dust and clear flake shellac ? I did this a few times and I like that the dust fills the small void and the shellac melts in with a coat of shellac , then I use my vinyl sealer over that .
This won't leave a glue line footprint and does the job well . I am going to start another thread look for it
thanks again guys
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

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Neil, did you make that rosette yourself? If so, is it cut from a solid piece of rosewood or is it multiple strips glued together to form a circle? And what did you use to cut it? I'm a newbie and toying w/the idea of make my own wood rosette (if you couldn't already tell).

Danny
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Re: not much, but I think my rosette's nearly done

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OK, no CA glue for touch ups. I think I'll let it sit because the only other glue I've used to date is Titebond which I don't think would work here. FWIW I used a LOT of CA glue to inlay the rosette as a whole and I think I used plenty of shellac beforehand.
~ Neil
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