Gluing on the binding alone first...

[Kevin Sjostrand]

I have a plan and wonder how you all think about it.
I'm doing this dred right now and the plan is to use curly maple binding, with paua abalone purfling between .010" black lines. What I'm planning on doing is similar to how Chris Paulick demonstrates his install. Cutting the channels, taping down the binding and CA gluing it in place. Then coming back and laying the black lines in the channel and inserting the shell all the way around, then saturating it all with CA. I will coat the channel with Shellac first to hopefully keep the CA out of the end grain of the top. This is the area that concerns me I suppose, but how does this process sound to you all? Anyone done it this way before? This will be my first abalone purfling around the guitar. The other option is to use the teflon strips in the channel when gluing on the binding. My dimensions are such that if I do that, I will have to glue the one black line that will be against the endgrain of the channel in with the strips. If I do that, I could use white glue and won't have the CA seepage concern. Hmm, so many decisions.

Kevin

[tippie53]

I hate CA for binding . CA will stain spruce and while it may look good today , over time the stain may present itself. It is also a pain to pull the poly filler strip. On some woods CA will seep into the wood pores and this will leave a glue footprint.

[Kevin Sjostrand]

Good John. I appreciate that. How about I glue the maple binding in place (to the EIR and hog kerfing), use the strips and use the white glue to glue my .010" black line against the top in the channel, then come back and put the other black line and the shell in the channel and use white glue as I go around?

Kevin

[tippie53]

I use the poly filler strips , that way I can bind like normal , then once the glue sets I lift the poly out and drop in the pearl. Feel free to call me.
Once you do this and you start and top it is hard to get an exact fit. You can get poly filler at Custom pearl inlay

[Blake Dixon]

John

What do you recommend for glueing your binding in with? I think you have used fish glue for this however can you use titebond as well?

Thanks
Blake

[tippie53]

if it is wood any wood glue with work if it is plastic I use DUCO cement

[Blake Dixon]

Thanks but what do you use? I like to learn from those who have proven it first
Thanks

Blake

[tippie53]

when I do pearl I use a teflon strip to match the pearl size. then if it is wood or plastic I will use any wood glue. Tite bond is good and so is the fish glue. Be sure to break the inside mating corner of the wood binding . If it is plastic I use DUCO cement or weld on.
all goes in at the same time. The purfling , teflon , purfling and binding. I allow to cure overnight and pull out the teflon strip and then use tite bond on the pearl. You can use fish glue but here I do like the tie bond as it allows more work time to maneuver the pearl.
that is how I set rim pearl. I do use a 8 penny nail that I grind the point to a more needle like point.

[Blake Dixon]

Thanks for the details John that really helps us amateur's
Blake

[Kevin Sjostrand]

Okay what I will be doing, based on the dimensions of my binding, abalone and black lines. My cut will be .210" deep. I'll use two .066" teflon strips, my binding is .070" and one of the .010" black fiber lines (spruce side of channel) and glue them all in. Then I'll pull the teflon, and lay in the other black fiber (on the other side of the channel) and the abalone. When its all in I'll flood the abalone with super glue, which will also glue in the fiber. Should work just right and turn out peachy keen!
Thanks John for the time and suggestions on the phone.

Kevin