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Hello everyone,
I'm in the process of installing some bloodwood bindings and I'm concerned about them staining my adi top. I've read where some people use shellac to prevent CA glue from wicking into the top and I'm wondering if this technique might also help prevent staining. Also, when using shellac, do you just use the CA glue on top of it when installing the purfling, or will that cause adhesion issues?
Any advice is appreciated.
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I'm in the process of installing some bloodwood bindings and I'm concerned about them staining my adi top. I've read where some people use shellac to prevent CA glue from wicking into the top and I'm wondering if this technique might also help prevent staining. Also, when using shellac, do you just use the CA glue on top of it when installing the purfling, or will that cause adhesion issues?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
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Re: bindings
The bloodwood can stain the the top and sealing the top with shellac will help prevent it. If you are using CA to glue in your bindings make sure you seal the channel or the top can stain, a deep dark stain following a grain line. I just glue on top of the shellac as you say.
For the most part I use PVA to glue the bindings and purflings. The CA can be a bit messy, can find any opening to run, and is harder to rework. I have used CA on rosettes where it has taken such and effort to dry fit the components the flooding (an already shellaced channel) with CA was easier.
For the most part I use PVA to glue the bindings and purflings. The CA can be a bit messy, can find any opening to run, and is harder to rework. I have used CA on rosettes where it has taken such and effort to dry fit the components the flooding (an already shellaced channel) with CA was easier.
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Re: bindings
Hi Anthony,
When I used bloodwood bindings with a sitka top I've had no problems with staining of the top. I always spray a coat of shellac on the top to protect it anyway, and this will keep any of the bloodwood dust from infiltrating your top, however, spruce is not porous and the dust won't get in there very deep anyway. Protect the top and you should be fine. If this is your first, you would be better off using white glue to glue those bindings in; more time to work with them as your tape them in place.
Good luck!
Kevin
When I used bloodwood bindings with a sitka top I've had no problems with staining of the top. I always spray a coat of shellac on the top to protect it anyway, and this will keep any of the bloodwood dust from infiltrating your top, however, spruce is not porous and the dust won't get in there very deep anyway. Protect the top and you should be fine. If this is your first, you would be better off using white glue to glue those bindings in; more time to work with them as your tape them in place.
Good luck!
Kevin
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+1 on the white pva glue for wood bindings.
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Re: bindings
I use fish glue on all wood binding. I am not a fan of adding a process when you don't need to. Any wood glue will work. Also use clamps at the waist
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Re: bindings
Thank you everyone. In the past I installed the purfling first, using medium CA. After that, I did some clean up before installing the binding using PVA. Now that I know the PVA works for both, it sounds as though I can install them at the same time.
John, I've read a couple of threads regarding fish glue. it sounds as though it gets tacky quickly, but gives you a little more working time. Is this correct and where do you recommend buying it?
Thanks again everyone.
John, I've read a couple of threads regarding fish glue. it sounds as though it gets tacky quickly, but gives you a little more working time. Is this correct and where do you recommend buying it?
Thanks again everyone.
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Re: bindings
Would you mind posting a pic of how you use clamps on the waist to keep the binding in place?tippie53 wrote:....... Also use clamps at the waist
Would you suggest fish glue for Cocobolo binding?
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Re: bindings
Would some large rubber bands or bicycle tire inner tubes do the job of waist clamping the bindings?Darryl Young wrote:Would you mind posting a pic of how you use clamps on the waist to keep the binding in place?tippie53 wrote:....... Also use clamps at the waist
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Gluing cocobolo is a subject about which there are so many conflicting opinions. Ain't the 'net great?Darryl Young wrote: Would you suggest fish glue for Cocobolo binding?
Epoxy, contact adhesive, CA, PVA, hide, fish, acetone and on and on. Darryl and I and probably many others would like to hear from experienced cocobolo gluers, which glue gives you the best results when gluing up cocobolo?
-tommy
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Whoops, I just glued my cocobolo bindings on with PVA. It seems to be holding so far.tommyboy wrote:Gluing cocobolo is a subject about which there are so many conflicting opinions. Ain't the 'net great?Darryl Young wrote: Would you suggest fish glue for Cocobolo binding?
Epoxy, contact adhesive, CA, PVA, hide, fish, acetone and on and on. Darryl and I and probably many others would like to hear from experienced cocobolo gluers, which glue gives you the best results when gluing up cocobolo?
-tommy