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Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:50 pm
by segovia
Is anyone using the Behlen hide glue from SMc ?
I mix a trial batch using equal weights of water and granules which equates to about en egg cup full of granules and 80% egg cup of water.
It looked a bit thick to me and easily skinned over after about an hour in the glue pot
J
Re: Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:31 pm
by
How quickly the glue is skinning over is relative to the gram strength of your hide glue. Have a look at this URL for some expert advice.
http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier ... eglue.html
-tommy
Re: Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:36 pm
by tippie53
Not all hide glue is the same. I find the best hide glue from Tools for working wood. they have different strengths. I find the quality about the best there is.
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com//Mer ... gory_Code=
Re: Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:21 pm
by
+1 on John's resource link. They also sell a $20 book all about hide glue. Interesting read for me.
Here's some additional information you may find useful.
http://woodtreks.com/animal-protein-hid ... tory/1549/
-tommy
Re: Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:00 pm
by Tarhead
I use the Behlen's in a 1:1 mix with water. That gives me a gel after it sits at room temp for a few hours but thins to Log Cabin syrup consistency when it gets hot. One thing that really helps me is to mix up a few ounces in a ~6oz plastic squeeze bottle and heat it in a hot water bath (I use a baby bottle warmer). It makes application go very fast, even and neat vs back and forth with a brush. After the project is finished the leftover glue is tossed.
Re: Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:22 pm
by segovia
Any advice on the hold-heet pot use would be appreciated as guidance is misleading as follows
DO NOT PLACE WATER IN THE HEATER SHELL
NO WATER IS REQUIRED IN THE JACKET
PLACE WATER AND GLUE IN REMOVABLE CHAMBER
J
Re: Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:23 pm
by segovia
Tarhead wrote:I use the Behlen's in a 1:1 mix with water. That gives me a gel after it sits at room temp for a few hours but thins to Log Cabin syrup consistency when it gets hot. One thing that really helps me is to mix up a few ounces in a ~6oz plastic squeeze bottle and heat it in a hot water bath (I use a baby bottle warmer). It makes application go very fast, even and neat vs back and forth with a brush. After the project is finished the leftover glue is tossed.
I noticed it goes to gel very quickly.
Re: Hide Glue Mix
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:20 pm
by segovia
I did some tests and I wasn't happy, after about 9 hours of cure time I could easily pull a test piece of spruce from a block of Mahogany
How long does hide glue take to cure ?
Duke does like the taste of it though
J