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Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:01 pm
by KyleColdren
Hey anybody ever used laminated bracing. I met a luthier that swore by it. He said to look at how McPherson was using them. That they are stronger and lighter and you don't have to worry so much about grain and run off. What does everybody think?
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:11 pm
by tippie53
It is a proven concept . One thing to remember is to keep a minimum of 1/4 inch width . The laminated braces will make for a stiffer structure. Many builders are using them . At Woodstock I had seen one builder with them .
Guitar sounded nice . JJ Donahue . John Sebastion had a good time playing it.
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:28 pm
by KyleColdren
John, do you shape the bracing the same way? Have you tried it?
Thanks for the 1/4" tip. I think I want to try using them.
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:29 pm
by Jim_H
What materials are you going to laminate?
What is your goal in using them? Tonal ? Structural? Volume? Durability?
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:54 pm
by KyleColdren
I believe the common application is spruce laminated with rosewood. Look at McPherson's web site. The goal is same as any bracing - strength, tone, appearance, etc.
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:25 am
by Oval Soundhole
The larsons started the laminated bracing thing btw.....
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:48 am
by Darryl Young
If it were spruce laminated on both sides of carbon fiber, I would be for it. Not sure what you could gain adding heavier wood (rosewood etc.) that has a lower stiffness to weight ratio. It can achieve the same stiffness with a taller spruce brace and keep the top lighter.
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:36 am
by Jim_H
KyleColdren wrote:I believe the common application is spruce laminated with rosewood. Look at McPherson's web site. The goal is same as any bracing - strength, tone, appearance, etc.
I guess I didn't ask a very good question.
Is there something specific about your existing guitars you are trying to improve or change?
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:28 am
by tippie53
any lamination is stronger using spruce on spruce is stronger. I didn't do it but the braces were shaped nice and in what I would call a standard scalloped pattern.
Re: Laminated bracing - What do you think?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:47 am
by KyleColdren
Jim,
I come from a more of a furniture woodworking background and am always looking to improve on the strength of what I build. Like I said in a earlier post, a luthier friend of mine has been swearing by them and pointed me to the McPherson site. I just wandered if anyone else had any experience with them and whether there was any noticeable change in sound or strength. That's all!