Laminated and Carbon Fiber Enhanced Bracing
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2026 12:23 pm
Starting to think about my next project ( just finished my Nautilus guitar attempt ).
Want to do something a bit more creative vs just copy an existing design so I have been investigating various bracing methods/technology that might produce a better result. Soon discovered that guitar bracing can be a rat hole you can easily get lost in. At this point still don't know what I want to do but as part of this process I think I discovered a few things that would be worth sharing.
1) Many bracing options I am considering require curved braces. A typical way to do this is to use thin layers of spruce and make a laminated brace by gluing the thin layers together in a caul. I used this method in my Nautilus guitar design.
There I used 6 layers, each 0.04 inches thick, to make a 0.24 inch thick brace. So... I decided to make a straight brace using this method and test it to see how much weight was added by the epoxy ( vs a solid 0.25 inch wide spruce brace ) and if the lamination added any stiffness by testing displacement under load.
In the end the laminated brace weighed about 20% to 25% more and the stiffness ( displacement under load) was the same. An interesting and somewhat surprising result. I expected an increase in weight but also some improvement in stiffness. Bottom line is using curved braces made this way probably still makes sense but there is a small weight price to pay.
2) Another bracing option I have been considering is spruce braces using carbon fiber threads epoxied to the top and bottom of the brace to add stiffness ( as used by Trevor Gore in falcate bracing ). So... I bought some carbon fiber and made some test braces to measure increased weight and stiffness.
Again interesting results. A 7.6mm high by 6.1 mm wide spruce brace with carbon fiber epoxied on top and bottom had a weight increase of 12% vs a solid spruce beam of same dimension. The stiffness of this beam under load improved by about 25% vs a solid spruce beam of same dimension. Not a huge amount. More interesting is when I measured the height of the beam with the carbon fiber added it increased the height of the beam from 7.6 mm to 8.3 mm. It turns out that the stiffness of the beam is proportional to the 3rd power of the height. So an increase of height from 7.6 mm to 8.3 mm with a spruce beam ( no carbon fiber) represents an increase in stiffness of about 25% . Bottom line, at least from my experiments, is adding carbon fiber to the braces doesn't add much. It may improve long term creep ( for bracing under extreme stress ) but given it didn't have much effect on stiffness I have some doubts.
Just want to emphasize that these results are from my experiments are the best I could do and could be wrong but I thought I would pass them on as they might be useful.
Regards
Want to do something a bit more creative vs just copy an existing design so I have been investigating various bracing methods/technology that might produce a better result. Soon discovered that guitar bracing can be a rat hole you can easily get lost in. At this point still don't know what I want to do but as part of this process I think I discovered a few things that would be worth sharing.
1) Many bracing options I am considering require curved braces. A typical way to do this is to use thin layers of spruce and make a laminated brace by gluing the thin layers together in a caul. I used this method in my Nautilus guitar design.
There I used 6 layers, each 0.04 inches thick, to make a 0.24 inch thick brace. So... I decided to make a straight brace using this method and test it to see how much weight was added by the epoxy ( vs a solid 0.25 inch wide spruce brace ) and if the lamination added any stiffness by testing displacement under load.
In the end the laminated brace weighed about 20% to 25% more and the stiffness ( displacement under load) was the same. An interesting and somewhat surprising result. I expected an increase in weight but also some improvement in stiffness. Bottom line is using curved braces made this way probably still makes sense but there is a small weight price to pay.
2) Another bracing option I have been considering is spruce braces using carbon fiber threads epoxied to the top and bottom of the brace to add stiffness ( as used by Trevor Gore in falcate bracing ). So... I bought some carbon fiber and made some test braces to measure increased weight and stiffness.
Again interesting results. A 7.6mm high by 6.1 mm wide spruce brace with carbon fiber epoxied on top and bottom had a weight increase of 12% vs a solid spruce beam of same dimension. The stiffness of this beam under load improved by about 25% vs a solid spruce beam of same dimension. Not a huge amount. More interesting is when I measured the height of the beam with the carbon fiber added it increased the height of the beam from 7.6 mm to 8.3 mm. It turns out that the stiffness of the beam is proportional to the 3rd power of the height. So an increase of height from 7.6 mm to 8.3 mm with a spruce beam ( no carbon fiber) represents an increase in stiffness of about 25% . Bottom line, at least from my experiments, is adding carbon fiber to the braces doesn't add much. It may improve long term creep ( for bracing under extreme stress ) but given it didn't have much effect on stiffness I have some doubts.
Just want to emphasize that these results are from my experiments are the best I could do and could be wrong but I thought I would pass them on as they might be useful.
Regards