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Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:46 pm
by rcnewcomb
I noticed that areas where I got a bit of Titebond II glue on the redwood are leaving a stain. The glue in the photo has been dry for a week.
1. How do I get rid of these marks? Scraper? Sandpaper?
2. How do I prevent them in the future? I just wiped the glue with a dry rag, not a wet one. Would that make any difference?
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Re: Titebond "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:01 pm
by rcnewcomb
Further reading suggest that Titebond II should NOT be used for instrument building and repair.
sigh
Lesson learned. I'll switch to Titebond original for the remainder of the build.
Re: Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:06 pm
by tippie53
you won't get them out.
Tite bond ll is not what you want to use.
Use original or Elmer's yellow
Fish glue
hide glue
Re: Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:45 pm
by rcnewcomb
Does fish glue need to be heated like hot hide glue? I used hot hide glue back when Nixon was president.
Re: Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:52 pm
by Danl8
Room temp is fine for fish glue. I'm new to it-- John got me hooked. I use room temp hide glue (old brown something and Franklin brand) for violin repair, esp for minor side separations. I've always used hot hide glue for renn and baroque lutes. Easy enough to use.
Re: Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:37 pm
by tippie53
fish glue can be both ways. I use the cold fish glue
Re: Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:57 pm
by rcnewcomb
I had also used Titebond II for gluing in the rosette on the spruce top. Is that going to be a problem? i.e. is the top a lost cause?
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Re: Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:59 pm
by johnnparchem
If the top by the rosette is not stained titebond II should be a great glue for the rosette.
Re: Titebond II "stains" on Redwood
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:24 am
by tippie53
when I use tite bond I only use the original. At some point you may need to take something apart and that requires steam and water.
For all my rosettes I use Duco cement. I like it for 2 reasons. 1 it sets up pretty fast plus by adding fresh glue you reactivate it. 2 it doesn't add water.
I have yet to see it stain a top.
Martin uses it on their guitars. I even use it on wood rosettes .
I don't understand CA as a glue for rosettes you have to add a step of applying a sealer to avoid staining and Duco will do the job as well with one step. I will use tite bond to set pearl in the rosette.