Blogging Fatso!

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your gettin closer. I bet you can't wait
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nice shine there!
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Yes, I am getting antsy. I'm in the middle of the first lacquer session now. Can't wait to get startad on the next one, getting all the goodies together, pieces parts, tools etc...

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First lacquer application session complete, three good coats 45 minutes apart, almost one whole can of lacquer used. Now the waiting game begins!
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Looks great so far. Are you spraying the neck as well at this time?
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Yes John, neck is way ahead of body, I will be level sanding second session tonight and applying third session coats as well, will try to post some pictures.

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David,
Do I understand correctly that you have a thick layer of epoxy over the wood, not just in the pores?

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Kevin, the answer would be yes and no. I did put 5 coats of Z-Poxy on, however, I did sand quite a bit between each coat, the first 2 coats I sanded down to bare wood in some spots, the last three coats I sanded the get a nice level surface, the last coat just basically knocking the shiny rind off for lacquer adhesion principles. So to answer your question, a thick layer, I don't know, what would constitute "thick"? I have a good layer, good enough that I didn't sand through to bare wood on my final prep. If I had to translate into thousandths my answer would be helifino! Not trying to be a smarty pants it's just that I have never done this before so I don't have any experience or history to draw on.

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I know many use Z poxy but I still use my pore o paq. Once you find a technique that works for you and gives you the results don't change unless you know you will get better results.
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What Tony said, I watched the Todd Stock video (all three parts) and he says not to sand to bare wood and on his final prep he only scuffs the Z-Poxy with scotchbrite, I tried the scotchbrite but didn't like it, ended up scuffing with 320 grit sandpaper for final prep. LMII's website directions for Z-poxy application says be sure NOT (the word "not" capitalized) to sand to bare wood. I think that is because (like Tony said) the finish would probably come out splotchy, only speculation on my part. LMII further states that although they have had no reports of adhesion problems with finish over Z-Poxy, they reccomend a thin coat of de-waxed shellac between Z-Poxy and the finish. If I remember correctly, Todd Stock said to use vinyl sealer. I however, chose to "buck the system" and applied the lacquer straight on top of the Z-Poxy without the use of any type of sealer what-so-ever. After I scuffed with 320g I wiped with DNA and the resulting surface was very tacky to the touch, so I don't "think" that I will have any adhesion issues. If I am wrong about that then I will have learned a good lesson and I'm OK with that, "it is what it is", we shall see!

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