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additional material on waist?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:41 pm
by benjoo
Hey John and the other builders, I always wanted to know and never found out yet whats this extra area with the hole on guitar tops when rough-sawing them to shape. You know those on the waist I dont know what to call them.
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Benjoo

Re: additional material on waist?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 6:41 pm
by tippie53
The outer holes are for production floor jigs and have nothing to do with a guitar. They make sure the top or back is positioned correct for brace locations and sound hole and rosette cutter. I always called them jig locating holes

Re: additional material on waist?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 4:44 pm
by benjoo
tippie53 wrote:The outer holes are for production floor jigs and have nothing to do with a guitar. They make sure the top or back is positioned correct for brace locations and sound hole and rosette cutter. I always called them jig locating holes
Yea i was thinking of something like that, thanks for clarifying John.

Benjoo

Re: additional material on waist?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 6:55 pm
by tippie53
you are most welcome

Re: additional material on waist?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:26 pm
by MaineGeezer
Technically, I think they are for locating fixtures, not jigs, but everybody and everybody mixes up the terms jig and fixture. Here is one definition:

A jig is a type of tool that is used to control the location and/or motion of another tool. A fixture, on the other hand, is a work-holding or support device, used to hold the work in place.

Think of a "drilling jig" used to positively locate the position of drilled holes by providing hardened bushings the drill passes through. A "workholding fixture" would hold the part in the correct position to be drilled.

But everybody gets the terms mixed up, so who cares.

Re: additional material on waist?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:38 pm
by tippie53
you are right main they are fixture holes used to set the top in the right position for bracing , rosetting and even when the top gets set to the sides.