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Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:53 pm
by darren
Not too old school... I have to admit I looked through some of my posts and have been guilty of using the term incorrectly. Thanks for the reality check - it's art, craft, not a build. I love the process as well - and the final result is an instrument, not a 'build'.

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:25 pm
by tippie53
I admit to using the word but Rick is correct. I also use project . The key is that it is a building project . We all have our little quirks . I will try and stop using the term build .

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:31 pm
by enalnitram
Well I can appreciate your building up this build issue and all the resulting buildabaloo surrounding its buildability. Build Cory started this forum to inspire prospective builders to start building guitars, not building builds. Why just the other day I saw a circus act, they were build as the duck-build misappropriated verbiage experience, so I strode right up to the window, asked for a ticket, and asked if I could be build for it.

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:58 pm
by johnnparchem
As the latest culprit on this site, I would be quite happy not to use the phrase. Although there has been a few long term uses of “build” as a noun. It is easy for me to slip into using the word when I hear it because it is used as a noun in the software industry on a daily basis: “Are you running on the latest build?”

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:23 pm
by enalnitram
johnnparchem wrote:“Are you running on the latest build?”
We're all friends here, show us your builds!

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:48 pm
by Tony_in_NYC
Martin....my laughs kept on building as I read your post.

Rick, I agree. Have you seen the latest guitars I gave been crafting?

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:28 pm
by Kevin Sjostrand
Okay, so I think I am also guilty of building my builds...So you all tell us what kind of guitars you are building.......in what kind of building?
Sorry for the humor, I too shall strive to refrain as I want to be known someday as a Luthier, not a builder.

Kevin

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:18 pm
by kencierp
I am too old to waste one neuron exchange on this -- oh my ---?

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:00 am
by rgogo65
I'll be honest, I think you're making a big deal out of nothing.

Of course you can, it's OK I guess, but it seems a bit unrealistic to me.

It's a widely used, pretty much universal SLANG term adopted across the full spectrum of the craft.

I use it, (But I'm sure you knew that :) ) I LEARNED to use it from some of the most respected luthiers in the business.

Wayne Henderson, Dana Bourgeois, and Tim Mcknight to name (3) I have had contact with and spent time around.

They use the term regularly, the quality of their instruments or their reputations don't seem to be affected in the least.

Most manufacturers that used the term throughout their advertisements, websites, and marketing media, including CF Martin.

All freely refer to the "Building" process "Custom builds" The "Builds" of others
etc. and on and on...it's pretty much an accepted term and regularly and widely used.

One would have to completely redesign this entire forum page if your concept is to be followed, "Build" or "Building" is referred to or used 7 times on the opening form.

Every advertiser on the opening page uses the term extensively in their material.

Good luck with your concept, it may be worth it to you, it may be good grammer, it may be the right thing to do...but IMHO it will be a constant battle you will never win.

(:0)>} Ray

Re: For the "Build"-ers

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:07 am
by enalnitram
rgogo65 wrote:I think you're making a big deal out of nothing.
when I was in school, ie., "the teach," sometimes I am find myself short on change so I would sometimes make the ask of my friends for a lend. Once I made an ask of Johnny, but he had a say of not give him a bug because he was working on his next big write. and my friends in the rock band, they make a say they couldn't help because they had poured all their cash into their next perform. my understand of a use of the verb from my days at the teach has had a big settle and has made me feel a huge thank. I'm glad you have an agree.
Runningdog wrote:I gotta say Thanks to everyone for not putting me down -- at least, not too hard! It's worth a good laugh, which I got from several posts, and the reminder not to take myself too seriously. I don't think I do but ... By the way Martin, where can I get tickets to that marvelously named circus act? But, why a duck?
Build animals have always interested me, the duck-build platypus, long-build vultures, the keel-build toucan...I'll see if I can get you tix to this show that critics have build as "like being build for merchandise you will never receive."

ps. just messing around of course. I kinda never thought about this much, being a newbie craftsman and all, but now that I have, it honestly kinda annoys me too, and man alive, threads appeared at that other place with that term in the title and everything, just yesterday.