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 Post subject: Outsourcing the finish
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:42 pm 
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I recently read that John outsources his finish work.......OMG......lightbulb moment!
I've struggled to acheive an acceptable finish in the humidity of Florida and am yet to be 100% satisfied with my results. I've done rattle can lacquer in a low humidity booth and also tried Tru-Oil with ok results.
With this in mind, I've located a local finish shop that will apply 12 coats hand rubbed full gloss for $300.00 with sanding in between every 3 coats.
So what I'd like to know is this a reasonable charge for the work done? I'm leaning toward yes due to my inability to acheive a finish I'm comfortable with.
I'd love to hear comments from John as to how this compares to what he pays for similar work.
So, forum members. What are your thoughts?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:37 am 
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That's about 25% below what I charge to finish a guitar in clearcoat. Curious if that includes pore fill?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:06 am 
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I found a local car painter (works in a repair shop, does repairs and painting) who also builds electric guitars in his shop. He does lacquer for me for $150 an instrument, including this black one:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/16731648519/in/album-72157646344222304/

no pore fill so I usually do that and a coat of shellac before I give it to him. Look around and no telling who you can find

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:58 pm 
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I'm sure the pore fill is my responsibility.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:18 am 
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Yes I have be out sourcing finish as it is more productive for me and cheaper as I don't need a spray booth or the insurance that follows that
I only loose a few hours to drop off instead of days of shop time
My finish guy does my pore fill and buffing
I provide the body in the white and mask off the areas I want as the extension etc.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:39 pm 
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I had sent some projects off to Southbound Custom in Nashville. His 2k poly was a VERY high gloss nice finish and was considerably cheaper than nitro. However, Poly has a tendency of looking a bit tacky at times, on the contrary nitro always looks natural.

I was happy with Steven's work.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:29 am 
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Dan Bombliss wrote:
I had sent some projects off to Southbound Custom in Nashville. His 2k poly was a VERY high gloss nice finish and was considerably cheaper than nitro. However, Poly has a tendency of looking a bit tacky at times, on the contrary nitro always looks natural.

I was happy with Steven's work.


Dan
To take off a bit of the "tacky look" (too glossy?) try lightly scuffing with 0000 steel wool then giving it a light buffing with extra fine rouge on a wheel. Results tend to be very lacquer like IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:36 am 
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I tried failed so miserably at the Stew Mac rattle can nitro. I followed directions to a T. Applied 7 coats very lightly. It checked! Sanded guitar down to bare wood, it Checked again! I must have spent more than $100 on the stuff.

I tried searching the Syracuse, NY area for someone who would do nitro but to no avail. I decided to try KTM product. Currently drying, awaiting the final wet sand.

This finish process is driving me nuts! The wood working has been done for 9 Months now, and I still can't play the thing.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:32 am 
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finish is one of the hardest parts for sure took me about 14 guitars to nail it

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:54 pm 
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mike288 wrote:
I tried failed so miserably at the Stew Mac rattle can nitro. I followed directions to a T. Applied 7 coats very lightly. It checked! Sanded guitar down to bare wood, it Checked again! I must have spent more than $100 on the stuff.


Hey Mike,
I was planning a StewMac rattle finish too. Ever find out what made your lacquer check? Was temp and humidity a factor?

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