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Re: Guitar #3 -- an OM cutaway

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:26 pm
by MaineGeezer
Here's the herringbone rosette, courtesy of StewMac.

Re: Guitar #3 -- an OM cutaway

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:56 pm
by MaineGeezer
Today I've been amusing myself trying to bend the curly maple binding to a radius as tight as will be required for the cutaway section. I went through three or four test pieces before I decided I was never going to be able to bend it that tightly. Then I decided to reduce the thickness -- from 0.080" to 0.065" -- and see what difference that might make. Magic! I was able to bend a 3.5" diameter ring with no trouble at all. The cutaway will be tighter than that, but the 3.5" diameter felt so easy I am reasonably confident I can do the cutaway.

Of course thinner binding means less margin for error when cutting the binding channel -- there won't any excess to speak off to sand off. This is getting interesting.

Cutting the grooves for the rosette

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:25 pm
by MaineGeezer
In the first picture I've cut the grooves for the inner and outer rings of the rosette. In the background you can see the test piece I did for practice.

The second picture shows a little gage I made to set the router bit depth. I'm sure a gazillion other people have done something similar. It's just a short piece of aluminum bar (too short -- it needs to be longer) with notches of varying depth.

Setting the router to cut a given radius

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:37 pm
by MaineGeezer
Here's another gage I made to set the router to cut a given radius. It's just a thin piece of aluminum with 1/8" holes drilled a specified distance apart. I use a 1/8" dowel pin for the pivot point and chuck another 1/8" pin in the router. Then I adjust the spacing until the pins go through the properly-spaced holes. One has to allow for the diameter of the cutter, etc., when figuring out the required hole spacing. I calculate all that with a CAD program on my computer, so when I get to the shop there is much less chance of making a stupid math error.

I drill the holes on my milling machine, so their spacing ought to be within a thousandth or so of what they should be.

I'm sure this is also not an original idea, but maybe it's new to somebody.

(And a lot of you are probably saying , "Why does he make it so complicated?" :-) )

Sound hole binding

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:50 am
by MaineGeezer
Here's a photo of the sound hole binding. It's the same curly maple as will be used around the top and back.

You can also see the installed rosette.

Re: Guitar #3 -- an OM cutaway

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:49 am
by nkwak
Great work on the binding and rosette! I love to hear how people overcome problems - as opposed to my methods of figuring out how to correct/hide mistakes!

Re: Guitar #3 -- an OM cutaway

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:07 am
by MaineGeezer
nkwak wrote: I love to hear how people overcome problems - as opposed to my methods of figuring out how to correct/hide mistakes!
Quote from somebody:
The master builders seem to never make mistakes because they are skilled at recovery and coverup...and keep quiet about it.

Herringbone purfling bent to shape, successfully

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:01 pm
by MaineGeezer
I was amazed at how easily the herringbone purfling from StewMac was to bend. I put a heat gun on it for a few seconds and it became totally limber.

I managed to get the profile of an OM as a CAD file, and with that I could program my CNC router to cut channels to match shapes of the sides. I used those channels as molds to bend the purfling into.

Re: Guitar #3 -- an OM cutaway

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:36 pm
by Kevin Sjostrand
When I was trying to bend bloodwood bindings a few guitars back, I couldn't get them done for a cutaway either at .0085". Then I thinned some down to .065" and bingo, they bent okay. Sometimes thinner is better.

Ciutawau side bending form

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:27 pm
by MaineGeezer
Here's a photo of the almost complete bending form for the cutaway side. I need to get proper bolts for it, and the assembly is about 1/16' too wide. I'll have to shave a bit off the spacers to get it down to 6" so it will fit the bending machine.