Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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JLT
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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I really don't have anything to add to these excellent suggestions except to recount my own experience with this. I did what Diane suggested on an already-built guitar I got from somebody, and cut an inner rosette which was glued under the soundboard proper. The only thing I did differently was to orient the grain perpendicular to the grain of the soundboard, figuring that it would help reduce the tendency of the soundboard to split there.

I used two pieces, each forming a half circle, so it was easy to pass them through the soundhole and glue them separately, using clothespins for clamps.
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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The diameter of the sound hole is around 15 cm.

I'm in the proces of find suitable wood - does anyone have a link for inspiration on what to chose? Seems like buying a new set of top plates, sanding etc is a bit over the top (pun intended ;) )

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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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Oh my! If my memory is correct, it is supposed to be around 9.5 cm. Yes, I think you need to fix it.
For the benefit of other primitive colonials, 15 cm is about 5.9." and it should be 3.75".

So you need to add a ring 2.75 cm wide, about 1.1 inches. I'm just trying to visualize this.
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For a source of wood, you might try contacting a supplier and ask if they have any orphan top halves. It seems a bit silly to buy a complete new top to cut up. I have seen single sides for sale though and somebody ought to have an odd half of a top that should be fairly cheap.
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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You can use any wood you want. It doesn't need to be spruce. You can use a beautiful decorative wood with a wild grain.

15cm is an awfully large soundhole! I know that Tony Riced guitars have enlarged soundholes, but I don't think they're that big. I agree with mainegeezer; I would definitely close it a bit.
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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Rather than try and hide it, I think I'd be tempted to turn it into a visual feature, by partially "eclipsing" the hole - possibly even integrated with a pick-guard.
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I have no idea what the implications of this would be sound-wise - but my gut feeling is that the open area of the soundhole matters more than its actual shape.
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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Well, there is one thing to be said for a nearly 6" diameter sound hole -- it would be easy to get your hand inside to do repairs!

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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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I will surely fix it, and I kind of like the eclipse idea:) Now i just have to find the wood.
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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The shape doesn't matter, so you can do as you wish with the hole. There are also ornate soundhole covers that you can make. You're only limited by your imagination.
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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Well, looked around and came up with this which I think will work :)
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Re: Consequences of a larger soundhole?

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sorengyllstrom wrote:Well, looked around and came up with this which I think will work :)
Nice! Just make sure you can still get your hand through the hole that's left!
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