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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:59 am 
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There are certainly other good manufacturers out there, with prices less than Starrett.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:46 am 
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that means it has passed a standard of accuracy.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:17 pm 
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There are a lot of good tools that are cheaper than a Starrett, unless you buy vintage, which I would recommend. If you are buying vintage, then Starret, Brown and Sharp, and Lufkin all make readily available high quality measuring tools. Here is a site that sells new, high quality blems from Japanese companies like PEC and iGaging.

[url]https://www.ebay.com/sch/taylortoolworksllc/m.html?item=151515185414&pwid=taylortoolworksllc&hash=item2347024106%3Ag%3Ag1kAAOSwAL9UjlaS&fol=343ceda6bc48a0180de8de5a7168828cead4c272c8166819578c76bf97606ae6&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562[/url


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:18 pm 
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I recently bought 2 4" iGaging double squares for gifts and they compared exactly to the couple of Starretts I use.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=151515185414&pwid=taylortoolworksllc&hash=item2347024106%3Ag%3Ag1kAAOSwAL9UjlaS&fol=343ceda6bc48a0180de8de5a7168828cead4c272c8166819578c76bf97606ae6&_ssn=taylortoolworksllc&_pgn=3&_skc=100&rt=nc


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:18 pm 
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The forum will opnly allow 1 URL per message - here is #3

I have found black with white writing to be the bees knees

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-6-Rigid-Black-Chrome-Steel-5R-Machinist-ruler-rule-1-64-1-32-1-10-1-100/130928191817?hash=item1e7beda949:g:4qUAAOSwajVUPAT-

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:22 pm 
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And only use a tape measure for gross measurement. The little tip that allows outside and inside reading makes them great for carpentry, but inaccurate for what we do here.

I have 3 Lufkin folding (zig-zag) rules that are scattered around the shop, and I have been careful to select 3 that agree with each other and that agree with my Starretts

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:52 pm 
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Sometimes forums get out of hand.It is easy to get caught up in problems that don't actually exist. I was actually starting to worry a bit about my many shop rules after following this thread. Today I took what is what I think is my best rule, a 24" Mitoyu, and compared it with 5 other long rules I have. The conclusion I came to is that you would have to be some kind of super human to tell the difference between them. Woodwork just is not done in thousandths of an inch. I don't think a $200.00 Starrett rule will build a better guitar. Too many other things to worry about in building. Just my opinion.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:44 am 
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I use a 36 in metal yard stick
it is just fine for what we do.
Bob is right we don't need to worry about thousandths. What is a concern is that you learn to read your ruler. I am surprised at how many are not well versed it reading or marking. Learn to be able to lay out and be consistent. THe only reason I have so many scales is that I was a machinist and had them up to 48 inches. My 48 in scale sets proudly where I put it when I came home from my last day on the job.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:43 pm 
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This morning I went to an estate sale that advertised tools and I got these 3. All are 12" Starrett, all are #4 graduations which means 1/8", 1/16", 1/32", 1/64".

#1 is an early one - WW1? - and is well used but the rule is nice and bright. #2 and 3 appear to be after WW2 with very clean jappaning, and some staining on the blades. #1 is the only one with the scribe still in it it. All 3 levels work. #3 has a small section of pitting in the center of one end of the rule that does not seem to get in the way - see the picture.

And remember that all of these rules, including the cheap ones, are adjustable

#1 - $20
#2 - $20
#3 - $15

Plus shipping - I think they will fit in a Priority mail envelope

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