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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 3:07 pm 
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For building with a pre-made kit, what hand tools do you guys recommend as far as planes and chisels go? What saws besides coping saw?

What types of planes do you recommend? Palm planes, block, etc.

What other hand tools are important?

If i could get recommendations, i'd look for the best quality i can afford.

I was looking at the Nerex Classic chisels from Lee Valley, which run around $16. Or should I go Stanley 750 instead? What sizes should i be looking at?

For inlays and binding, a laminent trimmer will be used.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:44 pm 
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Familiarity with the process is needed....one of the longterm sponsors/advertisers on this forum, Bill Cory, has published two books on kit building guitars. They will help an awful lot in demystifying the process.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 9:59 pm 
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Whatever you decide on, make sure they're quality hand tools. I've had surgery on both of my hands after my first build. The chisels wouldn't stay sharp.

Get a good sharpening system and keep them scary sharp.

I use my 1/2" and my 1/8" chisels daily, and no others. I chose Irwin Blue Chip vanadium. I also use the Irwin dovetail detail saw. I call it my shark. It's flexible enough to cut flush, but it cuts on the back stroke, so it cuts straight. Love it.

My favorite plane is an English Sheffield made 6" Stanley low angle, adjustable throat plane.

Get a couple of machinist 6" rulers (1/64" scale). You'll also need a 24" And 36" machinest rulers, same scale.

A good set of cabinet scrapers are a must. They need to be kept sharp to too. These are the only things I have trouble sharpening. Stewmac carries a scraper burnisher that even I can use to sharpen properly.

CLAMPS, lots and lots, and lots (did I say a lot?) of clamps. You can't own too many. I prefer the screw down bar clamps to the one handed squeeze bar clamp. Harbor freight is a good source for clamps. Small steel spring clamps are needed for the krrfing. Plan on using 1 per 2" of kerfing.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:39 pm 
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Thank you Diane. That's precisely the info I'm after. I'm not new to guitar building, but up to now have done so without using handtools (partly because I didnt / couldn't invest in any. Any more suggestions?


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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:28 pm 
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Diane covers it pretty well, although I'm not she stressed clamps sufficiently. <grin> Clamps. Lots of clamps. Bungee cord or a 10' length of latex surgical tubing can be useful for clamping odd shapes. I like the Irwin squeeze-to-tighten clamps, while Diane doesn't care for them; get what suits you. I'm wary of the classic C clamps because i find it too easy to apply too much pressure with them. I have a few though, for those occasions when something needs to be CLAMPED!!!!

A small block plane is essential. I've got an old one made by Sargent, I think, that seems to be one I always grab.

As Diane said, I good sharpening system is a must. If your chisels and plane irons won't shave hairs off your arm, they're not sharp enough. A honing guide makes life easier. Lei-Nielsen has a beauty for about a hundred bucks, but the $16 guide from Rockler is acceptable, especially if you work it over with some files to make sharp corners in the clamping grooves.

I've accumulated an assortment of chisels, but like Diane I seem to mostly use only a couple of them, in my case usually 1/4" and 5/8", sometimes 1/8" and 1/2".

A small square, a straightedge of some kind.

Glue....the major contenders are probably classic non-enhanced TiteBond, hot hide glue, and fish glue. Lately I've taken to using fish glue, as it has many of the desirable properties of hot hide glue with a much longer working time. There are several threads in this forum discussing the relative merits of glues, which are worth looking up.

Incomplete, but that may give you a bit more to go on.

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:44 am 
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Agree clamps
Harbor freight has a 6 in bar clamp for $2.99 and they are actually not bad I have about 100 of them but 30 should be good .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:57 pm 
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I was watching a ANTIQUE STANLEY No.9-1/2 BLOCK PLANE
WITH ADJUSTABLE THROAT AND SMOOTH BOTTOM IN VERY GOOD CONDITION on EBay. It just went for $23. I'm a noob in guitar building but use the crap out of a block plane when woodworking. I have a lie-Nielsen low angle block plane and others so I passed on the EBay one. There are others and that's a going price for a workhorse of a block plane..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:29 am 
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All of my planes are older planes. My favorite is a Stanley 12-060 60 1/2 block plane, made in Sheffield England. I just picked up a very nice, old 60+ year old Craftsman jack plane that looks as though it was never used.


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