Martin 0000

[Dallon426]

Hi everyone, I am looking to build my first guitar. I am most likely going to use a kit. I would like to build this guitar

http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/ ... 0028HW.htm

But I cannot find a kit for that. Since this will be my first guitar I am okay with building a 000 Martin Model. However, I would love to build the 0000.

Unless someone knows how to get more Bass out of a 000. The 0000 Just seems to have more bass and overall tone. I think it must be the lower bout size.

I did however play a santa cruz that had the tone I am looking for. I like a very full, bassy, loud tone, with punchy highs. I don't want a dreadnought. I have a yamahaFG 335 that supplies me with the tone that I love. And... That guitar is all laminate, still I would put it up against most expensive guitars out there. Yamaha really created a cheap, beautiful looking and sounding instrument. And I am trying to achieve that sound in a 000. Or the 0000. Any help is appreciated.

So two things,

A, can I get a 0000 kit?

B. If not, how can I get a 000 to sound louder and more punchy?


Thanks,

Dallon

[JRHall]

Welcome to the forum.

a. John Hall at blues Creek can provide you with the kit.

b. The sound you're looking for may better be found in a Martin Jumbo, that's a 0000 shape with the depth of a Dreadnaught. If you can find one to try out, I think you'd love it.

in any case, John can provide you with either model in whatever wood you want.

[Dallon426]

I do like the sound of the Jumbos, but I don't want a guitar that is that big. ideally I would like to have a 000 or an OM to produce that sound I am looking for.


It must be possible because, like I said that Santa Cruz OM I played had a huge tone.

[JRHall]

Well, how about a 000 with the deeper body of the J? That would be a pretty interesting guitar.

[darren]

Hi Dallon, first off welcome to the forum. Lots of good info here from builders at all different levels.

I think you would be surprised at the sound you can get out of a hand-built guitar. Someone here can give specifics on getting the most bass for your buck out of a 000 or OM. If you can, do some research on the bracing of that Santa Cruz you played and do your best to copy it.

BTW, I have (and love) fg335 as well... I recently completed an L00 that is not quite as loud, but definitely beats the FG in full bass and clear trebles.

[Dallon426]

Yes, I actually wanted to design a guitar that was an OM size with a dreadnought depth. I think it could have a lot of kick to it. There are some models out there, but I have yet to play them.

http://www.massstreetmusic.com/store/sh ... n-AC510-OM


I think that is one of the models. However, it is not in production so the only way to play one, is to find a used one somewhere.


Even though Eastman guitars are chinese, they are really beautiful instruments (some models)

Since I am building my first guitar, I don't know how to go about getting a kit that will be an OM body, with dreadnought depth. I was just going to purchase a 000 Martin kit and buy Bill Corrys book. And cross my fingers.

I am really excited about this site and the process. I will start building my guitar within a couple weeks. I am just shopping around a bit first. And also I need to purchase tools. But I don't want to go crazy. I'll buy the tools as I need them.

[Ben-Had]

"Since I am building my first guitar, I don't know how to go about getting a kit that will be an OM body, with dreadnought depth. I was just going to purchase a 000 Martin kit and buy Bill Corrys book. And cross my fingers."

Get a dred set and cut the top and back to OM shape. Remember for some a 000 has a short scale and the OM has the long scale. To get the sound you want I think you will want the long scale (25.4). I build OM's with a deep body to do just what you're looking for. I get the smaller guitar size and the added punch.

EDIT: I added a pic of my last OM Deep. Customer wanted it unbound.

[Ken Hundley]

I have fallen in love with the OM style guitars, smaller bodies, but seem to fit me very well. They have a more sexy shape than a dred, personally, but you do run the risk of not getting as full a sound as the bigger bodied guitars. I use sound ports to alleviate this issue. I built a fairly standard OM for someone. It sounded good, very trebley and a lot of mid-range, but with lots of punch and sustain. He asked me to add a soundport after the guitar was finished, before he ever even heard it. The guitar immediately sounded much deeper, even to an observer rather than a player, and rivalled the sound of my Jumbo, especially when being recorded. I made no other changes to the guitar, such as making a deeper body.

[tippie53]

the 0000 is a different size that the OM this is the same outside body shape as the Jumbo and M if you need anything in a kit we can help
thanks

[tippie53]

Runningdog's advice is very sound. Building guitars is a bit more complicated and takes experience. In all honesty most first guitars are more if an exercise in the process. There is so much to learn and I think most experienced guys will tell you that the first guitars were not the best ones .
We are all here to help. There are so many misconceptions about these boxes out there and it isn't until you made a few you learn that. We don't want to see you make mistakes that we have already done . We want you to make new ones so we can learn to.