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This one is ready to start the finishing process!
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Kevin Sjostrand

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HI gang.
I know you've seen pictures of this one along the way. It is now built and ready for the finishing process. I'll do a final sanding and check for any voids to fill, etc. Then I'm pore filling with epoxy. The neck is Sapele and is more dense then mahogany. It won't take much to fill. Then it is going to get a Deft lacquer from rattle cans spray finish in my portable spray booth. I hope to be spraying no later than the first weekend of June.
So here are a few pics of the state that #3 is in now. It is a bolt on neck and will be detached for finishing of course, and the bridge just has positioning pins holding it in place.

Kevin








May 15, 10 | 7:17 pm
RayRay

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It's beautiful Kevin! Makes me jealous :) I've been idle over a year now, I can't wait to get well enough to start building again...Patience is a virtue, but if I wanted "Patience" (SP) I'd a been a Doctor I guess...HAHAHA
I've wondered about sapele and finishing..I'll be interested in how it turns out for you and if there is any difference in the sound. Necks are funny that way with electrics...and of course, the fingerboards make a difference also....I would think it would be pretty much the same with acoustics.

May 15, 10 | 8:01 pm
Adaboy

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Wow! That is georgeous Kevin. I love the Cocobolo.

I'm so impressed that you carved the neck! It will be awhile (if ever) before I try that part of a build. The neck work sure looks nice. You may be able to loose a little more weight off the heel and the transition from heel to neck......but take that with a grain of salt.

Again, very impressive! Kudos!

May 16, 10 | 11:11 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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Thanks Ray,
Adaboy,
You are right about the heel and a good point. I know. It is a caution thing. I'm afraid I'll take too much away, and then what! I am tempted, but I think I'll leave it, and on the next one try and bring the curve in some. This neck has turned out better than the last one I think.
Cocobolo is a beautiful wood, but it was a bit of a pain glueing with epoxy..not as easy to do the squeeze out clean up. It is also a very heavy wood so the guitar is a heavyweight.

Kevin

May 16, 10 | 12:58 pm
Ken C

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Very nice, Kevin. You have got to be excited! That coco really is pretty. She definitely will be a looker under some finish. Looking forward to seeing pics of the finished git later in June! Good luck spraying the lacquer.

Ken

May 16, 10 | 2:28 pm
dviss

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Hey Kevin - looks great.

I'm with Adaboy on the heel - I did the same thing as you (left a lot of meat on the heal) and now when I look at it it definitely catches my eye. Playing-wise, I don't notice, it's just a visual thing for me. Do what you gotta do :)

Nice job on the volute too - that transition from neck to headstock was tough for me.


May 17, 10 | 12:59 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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I think one reason the heel looks so bulky is a combination of the width and the heigth. I have seen some that just look too skinny to me. I agree this one looks a bit bulky, but hey, it is going to be strong!!! :>), and it needs to hold up in a high humidity environment too. Perhaps it doesn't matter, but I figure a little extra insurance (bulk) may not hurt, but I'm just guessing here.
I think it looks better in person too!

Kevin

May 17, 10 | 2:51 pm
Ken Hundley

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Looks gorgeous so far, Kevin. As long as the neck doesn't feel clunky, then I wouldn't worry about it. Great figure, excellent construction, can't wait to see the finish.

May 18, 10 | 9:21 am
Bill Cory

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Kevin -- This is the one that's headed to India, right? It's beautiful! Your son-in-law will be heavily blessed to receive it.

I am curious -- you were at one point concerned about the humidity differential between where you're building it and where it will "live." Did you do anything special to get around that?

Great work ...
Bill

May 18, 10 | 10:14 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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Ken,
I was looking at the neck last night, and it really isn't as big as it looks in the picture, must be the perspective. On this one again, there are little things that have bugged me as I've done them, and did that....."why did I do it that way" thing! I am in no way a perfectionist, but I diffenately want to get at least a little bit better with each one I build.
It amazes me that I can do something, like cut in the end wedge, glue it in, and then notice that it actually is not lined up with the center line. I installed it 3 times, and it was still off....I just had to shake my head at myself. And of course there are other things too. I love Cocobolo, but I didn't like having to use epoxy to glue it, so I probably will not use it again. There are too many other woods out there that are just as nice looking, and have as good qualities, that are not oily and give that gluing problem.

Bill, this is the one for Sammy and will live in India. I have been storing the box and the neck in a large storage container with a humidifier (the sponge in the tupperware trick) and a hydrometer. I have been able to maintain the humidity between 45 and 50%, even as the outside humidity has dropped as low as 25%. I just hope it helps. I am concerned about the finishing. I guess I will spray, and as soon as the lacquer is dry, move it to the container again. I am setting the neck with a little extra relief so as the bridge rises from the humidity, the saddle can be lowered to maintain the action, at least that will be the hope. Time in India will tell.
It is great to have you posting again!!!!!

Kevin

May 18, 10 | 2:48 pm
Ken Hundley

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You know, I wonder if truoil on the wood might be a better finish for the environment than a waterborne lacquer.....WB can soften when wetted for a little while after the supposed "cure time". Just a thought. Either way, stilla beautiful guitar, Kev. Well done.

May 18, 10 | 6:19 pm
Laurent

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That one looks beautiful already without the finish!

May 19, 10 | 2:19 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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Ken,
Ah ha, Deft is nitro lacquer. Good thing cause I think you could be correct in a very high humidity environment.
Any more progress on the Maca? I have all the materials waiting, and mine is next, should start it in August.
Thanks Laurent. Actually Cocobolo is very nice just sanded down to about 600 grit and polished on a wheel, and would probably be great for a git that never strayed from the house.

Kevin

May 19, 10 | 6:02 am
Ken Hundley

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Nah Kevin, I haven't made any progress on anything in about 4-5 weeks. Work has been crazy, been travelling, and I think I burnt out. I just moved all my guitar stuff (except the finished ones) out of the office and back into the garage as the weather is nicer, and feeling the itch. I have also really been letting the truoil cure for a good amount of time. SO I need to finish the auction guitar, as well as my sisters...maybe 2-3 weeks from now. I also need to finish the mango, and haven't really even done the neck yet on that one. Maybe another two months. I imagine the maca will get prodded along during the finishng stages of the mango neck, so I could have the body closed up in the next month, maybe even bound. Not enough time for squat lately, and its frustrating. I'm not even playing! Very frustrating. Anyway, this one looks beautiful. Great job!

May 19, 10 | 3:32 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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Ken,
You've got too many going at once I think! I might have my Maca made before you have yours done!

I spent quite a few hours on the pore filling process this weekend. The time just evaporates! I did two sessions with 5 minute epoxy. This worked very well, but I should have probably done 3. I applied the epoxy with a credit card, taking as much back off the surface as possible. One half hour later, I scraped down the wood with a razor blade, then lightly sanded, wiped and blew the surface off to remove dust from the remaining pores, and did it all again. After the two sessions, I sprayed on two coats of sanding sealer, and when dry sanded it back to wood, then sprayed two more coats. This then showed what pores remained unfilled. I had a few so I went around and dropped filled these with super gue. When dry sanded these down and sprayed on a couple more coats of sanding sealer. This is Deft product I'm using. All is good on the sides, smooth as a babies behind, the back is almost there, just a couple of little pores to drop fill, and I should be done with the body. The neck headplate is filled, similar way, and I've applied the first coat of epoxy to the neck. The sapele has pores to fill, but seems less porous than mahogany. We will see how many applications it takes. I'm thinking two.
I know some have had difficulty using epoxy to pore fill, but I tell you, it really is easy, and quick if you use the 5 minute stuff, and, if you scrape it down rather than sand it down. The scraping is quicker, not as messy, and keeps your surface nice and flat.
I'll let you know how the neck turns out at the end of the week.

Kevin

May 23, 10 | 6:07 pm
Ken C

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Hey Kevin, good to hear you are making progress. Pore filling is my least favorite part of the build. You are just about past it! I'll bet you can't wait to see this one under a nice glossy coat of lacquer!

I was pore filling over the weekend as well, but it wasn't a guitar. Have a friend restoring an old Triumph Spitfire, and he brought the three piece dash over a couple of weeks ago for me to refinish. The previous owner had tried refinishing and had sanded through the mahogany veneer on the plywood, so he ended up painting it an ugly dirt brown. It was a pretty lame excuse for a dashboard. We put on some fresh mahogany veneer a week ago, and I pore filled it with Behlen's Pore O Pac yesterday. Kind of fun little project. I'll probably use poly on it to make it a bit more durable.

Ken

May 23, 10 | 6:55 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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Okay, so the neck took just one application of epoxy to fill, and it sanded very easily. I then sprayed two coats of sanding sealer and sanded that back, and all pores were filled. I really like working with the epoxy, it is so simple and trouble free, and does not add any color to the wood which I really like.

I put my spray booth up yesterday, and started spraying today. Got 4 coats of lacquer on. I will do two coats each night for the next 4 nights, then Saturday I will level sand, and do 4 more coats. At least that is the plan. So far it is is looking good, and sure is good to have it in the booth.

I'll post a pic or two of the booth so you all can see what I'm doing, if you haven't seen my threads on the last two guitars.

I see the horizon............and I see the next guitar there. Can't wait to start it.

Kevin

May 31, 10 | 7:34 pm
dviss

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Kevin,
I was thinking of Deft for my current build - can you share more details of your finishing schedule?

Thanks!
Darren

Jun 01, 10 | 4:38 am
Ken C

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Good luck, Kevin!

Jun 01, 10 | 4:50 am
Ken Hundley

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Sounds like it's coming along! I agree with the epoxy pore fill, I really like it, though I lost patience with one of the ones I was working on. Should have had another coat.

I actually spent a good a mount of time wet sanding adn polishing the padauk and zebrawood gutiars. My goal is to have them done by July4, and maybe even have finished my mango, though it will be close. You are right.....too many. Finish these 5, and then its one at a time afterwards. Can't wait to see some pictures of it coated!

Jun 01, 10 | 9:11 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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Darren,
I have only done two others, but I did them the same way and they turned out, I think pretty well.
I sand the body and neck to 240 grit. I pore fill with inexpensive 2 part epoxy, the kind that comes in the dual side by side tubes. Devcon, or some other brand (however I just tried "Loctite" brand and I didn't like it). I used the 5 minute set type this time and I liked being able to work it sooner. I use a credit card to spread the epoxy, working it in across the grain and with the grain until it starts to get sticky, then I scrape off as much as I can across the grain before it sets up. I let it dry, but not harden completely, and then scrape it down with a razor blade, down to the wood so only the pores are filled. I do this twice, three times if necessary.
The neck I spread the epoxy with my finger, it cleans off easily with acetone.
After scraping back, I then lightly sand with 240 grit just to make sure the epoxy is off the surface. When it looks good like all the pores are filled, I spray a couple of coats of Deft Sanding Sealer from rattle cans. When dry I sand this back to the wood. Now all the pores should be filled. I then spray two more coats of the sealer and let this dry thouroghly. Just before spraying the lacquer, I scuff sand the surface of the sealer with 400 grit. Then I start spraying the Deft Gloss Lacquer (which is a nitro lacquer). I try to follow a schedule but it is hard for me since I am a working person. I did 4 coats yesterday. Tonight I will do 2 coats, and the same the next 3 nights. So I will have 12 coats at the end of Friday. Saturday morning I will level sand the whole guitar using 400 grit, then I will spray the last 4 coats. The guitar will go into the humidity controlled box for curing for two weeks. When it comes out, I will begin wet sanding using 600, 800, 1000, 1500, and 2000. Then I use 3M Perfect it rubbing compound, rubbing by hand with a cotton rag, and finishing up with a wool pad on a drill. Then comes the Novus #1 polish, using a soft cotton cloth. I put this on the rag, not on the guitar, and wipe it all down in a circular motion. Regular cleaning with Dr. Ducks wax keeps the shine up.
So far this has worked for me. I hope it works again.

Kevin

Jun 01, 10 | 10:44 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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Just a few pics to show how it is going. The pore filling process, the portable spray booth on the patio, and the guitar after spray coat #8. The little spot on the back is where I picked off a bug....sheesh! I will drop fill that spot tomorrow morning. Then 6 more coats to go.





Kevin

Jun 03, 10 | 8:19 pm
Ken Hundley

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Lookin good, Kev. keep it up.

Jun 04, 10 | 5:48 am
Ken C

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Nice!!

Jun 04, 10 | 7:14 pm
dviss

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Yes, Looking nice! Thanks for the tips.

I really like the bearclaw in the latest set of pics.

Darren

Jun 05, 10 | 6:15 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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The figure is really showing up nicely in the top with the finish going on it now. Only 4 more coats to go! I should be done today. Good thing, it is starting to get hot, will be about 95 F today.

Kevin

Jun 05, 10 | 6:46 am
Adaboy

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Very, very nice Kevin! Everything is beautiful......good choices on wood and accessories.

Jun 26, 10 | 6:44 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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Thanks Adaboy.
I should be gluing on the bridge and neck, making the nut and saddle, etc. this week and hope to string it up on the 4th. If all goes well.....
I'll post some pics next week of a finished #3.

Kevin

Jun 27, 10 | 6:29 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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I just wanted to say this guitar is finished, as of 7:30 pm tonight. It was too late to take pics, so I'll try and get them tomorrow evening and post them along with the details. I must say, it plays and sounds very nice.
Tomorrow then, a new post in the "Finished" section.

Kevin

Jul 05, 10 | 9:11 pm



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