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Nitro Lacquer
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blues creek guitars Authorized Martin Repair Ctr

Total Topics: 52
Total Posts: 1011
We all know about Macfaddens going out , I want to pass on another high grade Nitro product. You would have to call Sherwin Williams to see where it is available. I use these product and get very good results
Vinyl sealer T67F3
Lacquer T70CT1
Byutle Acetate R6K18
Lacquer thinner R22
The lacquer is thinned with 2 oz per qt of thinner and byutle acetate is used to help the lacquer flow. This is spray lacquer and not a brushing lacquer.

John Hall
Blues Creek Guitars Inc.
Authorized CF Martin Repair Center

May 15, 10 | 3:47 am
Ken Cierp

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Total Posts: 2262
Ditto -- with John on this --- good stuff!

Note that this is not the Sherwin Williams "water white" system produced years ago. At some point in time the "water white line" of SW products was what the Martin factory used and there were many complaints especially premature checking -- but that is history, not to worry.

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978

May 15, 10 | 4:03 am
naccoachbob

Total Topics: 26
Total Posts: 257
This is stuff you really have to be careful with though, isn't it? Or is it something an amateur sprayer could safely handle?
Thanks,
Bob

May 15, 10 | 10:54 am
Bill Cory

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Total Posts: 3584
Bob -- Nitro, as in the same stuff that powers nitroglycerine, is explosive. It is explosive. If you can spray outside where there's no danger of any electrical spark from a fan, outlet or switch, and you are safely separated from any source of sparks or flame, then it's probably safe for an amateur.

As an amateur myself, not expert like John or Ken, I've stayed completely away from it. The threads on the EM6000 from Target Coatings describe it as an excellent finish; look at Ken Casper's (flyfisher) guitars. they're gorgeous.

Just my two pennies' worth.

Bill

May 15, 10 | 1:41 pm
blues creek guitars Authorized Martin Repair Ctr

Total Topics: 52
Total Posts: 1011
Nitro is a great finish but has to be treated with respect. Aside from the flammability of it , you have health issues. You need to have a safe spray area. I actually send mine out to get done. I need to install a spray booth. It isn't something you take for Granted but if you treat it carefully , it is one of the best materials for a finish out there. All finishes are compared to Niro lacquer.

John Hall
Blues Creek Guitars Inc.
Authorized CF Martin Repair Center

May 15, 10 | 2:08 pm
Bill Cory

Total Topics: 158
Total Posts: 3584
John -- question -- What finish have you found to be closest to nitro for hardness, gloss, durability, etc.?

May 15, 10 | 3:12 pm
blues creek guitars Authorized Martin Repair Ctr

Total Topics: 52
Total Posts: 1011
There are a few, though the water based are getting better . KTM had brought that product along well. It is hard to beat the repairability of Shellac and Nitro. I like my finished to be under .008 when done.
I am farming out my finish work now as Dale Bartholomew is a pro at this and has his process very consistent. I didn't get my spray booth in yet and he does a great job. I don't have to worry about health issues this way.
It isn't just the hardness that you need , it is the acoustic signature that you need to work with. Some finished will hamper your acoustics , most often by the dampening effects of how thick the finish is.
It isn't what you put on , but what you let on.

John Hall
Blues Creek Guitars Inc.
Authorized CF Martin Repair Center

May 16, 10 | 2:31 pm
Hugh

Total Topics: 16
Total Posts: 309
You still need filler over and above that don't you, or does the sealer do the fill?

May 16, 10 | 3:43 pm
blues creek guitars Authorized Martin Repair Ctr

Total Topics: 52
Total Posts: 1011
there are few woods that don't need filler , so yes a filler is needed

John Hall
Blues Creek Guitars Inc.
Authorized CF Martin Repair Center

May 16, 10 | 4:17 pm



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