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enalnitram (Martin Lane)

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When I visited Wayne Henderson last month, I was interested to find out what kind of ribbon it was that he used for supporting the sides, on the inside of the guitar.

It turned out he used brown Offray ribbon, and I took this picture of it.



I thought it would be easy to find when I got home. Well, for the last several weeks, on and off, I've been straining my eyes to read the little numbers on the roll.

Then, I've been searching the online Offray catalog for what I thought the numbers were, only to come up with nothing.

Fast forward to this past weekend, to my weekly grocery trip. I found myself in the craft aisle of my local Meijer store, and *duh*, Wayne's ribbon was right there, not 5 feet away from the same bags of popsicle sticks I bought to use for the sides on my first guitar.

Wayne uses the #1017 brown ribbon, 5/8" thick. It's $3 per roll. For whatever reason, that particular ribbon doesn't seem to be in the online catalog. Or at least, I couldn't find it.

Here ya go:
http://store.quilting-warehouse.com/284436.html


May 04, 10 | 12:21 pm
RayRay

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Martin, I wasn't aware you had a opportunity to visit with Wayne in VA. How cool was THAT?! I guess I probably missed the post or something...I've been a little under the weather..anyway..what a very special, kind and gentle soul he is...
What "Other" little tidbits did you learn while you were there? :) When we had some time in Denver, he related his thickness preference for his tops, sides and backs and I somehow entrusted this valuable info to memory..DUH?...just curious if you also discussed this with him?
I'm sure you will always treasure your time there. :)

May 04, 10 | 6:20 pm
longbow

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Cloth or wood on the sides, it's supposed to be for stopping cracks, but you wonder which one has better sound? I would like to hear what more guy's think......PS neat post thanks Dave

May 05, 10 | 4:31 am
enalnitram (Martin Lane)

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Ray, it was great thanks. I wrote about it just after it happened to help try and remember it all. I didn't ask him about thickness.

Dave, I'm just talking out of bottom here, but I think that the benefit of using cloth is that you can more easily glue it the full height of the sides, right under the kerfed lining. If you make braces out of wood you should (tediously) inlet it into the lining, in case a crack spreads on the edge of the lining, like this:


May 05, 10 | 5:41 am
enalnitram (Martin Lane)

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Oops forgot link:
http://laneguitars.blogspot.com/2010/04/wayne-henderson-shop-tour_08.html

May 05, 10 | 5:42 am
RayRay

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Thanks so much for your effort and the share. To me, it would be the "Visit" of a lifetime.
I really enjoy the man and appreciate someone of his ability who is also just a genuine "Regular Guy".
I took notes through the day in Denver, entered all in the computer and then lost it with a HD Crash...and THEN discovered I had tossed my "Notes". So much for relying on modern technology! :(
I remember that he alluded to the the "Craftsmanship" and "How well you build" with me and others as well, but I also noticed that he possesses an uncanny ability to be micrometer precise with his pocket knife and the eye of an eagle.
After carving and shaping a brace on the back of a top that he used as a demo, he stated that "I can guarantee you this brace is EXACTLY the shape and dimensions of a '37 Martin!" I have no doubt what-so-ever this was a fact!
He did tell me that "Make no mistake, you CAN build a guitar with Mahogany and a good Addy top that will sound every bit as good as any "High dollar" Martin ever built, if you use quality building techniques and procedures!"

May 05, 10 | 8:30 am
RayRay

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Sorry...didn't mean to "Hi-jack" the thread..thanks for the info and link on the ribbon. I knew he used it but had no idea what brand , size or type...already ordered a spool! :)

May 05, 10 | 1:25 pm
enalnitram (Martin Lane)

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I hope it works out for you. it's 100% polyester. in theory, I'd think that would be bad, but it's what Wayne uses, so I'll probably be using it too.

May 05, 10 | 2:36 pm



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