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Bill's China El Cheapo kit
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Herman

Total Topics: 38
Total Posts: 482
Bill (I hope you don't mind I'm telling this) had himself made some prototypes of low-cost kits in China. He want to see if this could work. In the end Bill decided not to proceed with this plan, but he got stuck with some kits he did not want to build. I thought it would be a cool project to make a kitguitar with as low as possible cost. But it had to sound ok and playable.

It has a non indentified spruce top. (the most floppy one I ever had). I left it on the 3mm thickness it came in with.
EI Rosewood back/sides/fingerboard/headplate
not indentified neckwood.

Well it came out very good. Not my best one but, it has a very ringy tone and high-end. Lacks a bit of low-end, but hey, its an OM, not a dreadnought. This could be a really fine guitar for someone who is starting playingfingerpicking. I'm triying to sell it now. (Would be my first sold guitar!)

I had great fun making it, and Bill thanks again for this oppotunity. This project proves that one does not have to spend 600 dollar on mastergrade materials to make a decent guitar. I'm on to my number 10, as bass for my friend's son)









Apr 27, 10 | 6:51 am
Herman

Total Topics: 38
Total Posts: 480
I forgot the sound file:

members.chello.nl/g.arendsen/OM1.mp3


Apr 27, 10 | 6:52 am
dviss

Total Topics: 18
Total Posts: 165
Not Bad Herman!
I love that second picture, and will copy that pose someday on my next guitar. :)

Surely your skills made up for whatever was lacking in your materials. I wonder if Bill has any more of these kits???

Apr 27, 10 | 11:38 am
dviss

Total Topics: 18
Total Posts: 165
forgot to say it sounds good too!

Darren

Apr 27, 10 | 11:40 am
Charles Kuo

Total Topics: 43
Total Posts: 222
Hey Herman,
Looks very nice.

If you don't mind, how much did the materials end up costing?

-Charles

Apr 27, 10 | 11:46 am
Bill Cory

Total Topics: 158
Total Posts: 3584
Herman -- Looks great! Sounds good too!

I think your expertise is showing ...

Good job --
Bill

Apr 27, 10 | 12:58 pm
Ken Hundley

Total Topics: 40
Total Posts: 2169
Great job Herman, very clean look, and it will probably open up a bit as it plays. Interestingly enough, on the first OM I built, it was a little thin on bass. Once I put a sound port on it, it sounded almost as big as my RW Jumbo. something to consider, but excellent build. I love your bridge too, and can't seem to come up with a simple an elegant look that accomplishes what yours does.

Apr 27, 10 | 1:20 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

Total Topics: 84
Total Posts: 981
Herman,
Very impressive. The guitar, the photography, and the sound.
Who says nothing good comes from China!!! Herman, can I bring my guitars to you to have them photographed? What beautiful scenery!!!!
Herman, can I bring my guitars to you to be played? What Beautifull playing.
Herman, can I bring my wood to you and have you build my guitars? Ha....
You do such nice work. Have you glued on a Cocobolo bridge yet?

Kevin

Apr 27, 10 | 2:23 pm
naccoachbob

Total Topics: 26
Total Posts: 257
I think it looks and sounds really good.
What a nice job.
Bob

Apr 27, 10 | 3:01 pm
Herman

Total Topics: 38
Total Posts: 480
Thank you guys for your positive comments.

Charles,
All in, I think the guitar did cost me about 300 euro (400 dollar). Still a lot.
All materials counted I think UPS, TNT and FedEx took 100 of them.
Apart from the kit I spend a least 80 on wooden pins, purfling, rosette, sanding paper, glue, thinner and laquer.

But thats how it goes, doesn't go different in your hobby I guess.
10 buck here, 10 bucks there and no time the guitars get expensive.

Kevin,
Don't you have plenty of sceneries over there? I thought I should take my guitars to yours and make pics there.
BTW I don't own a cocobolo bridge so cannot help you on that one.

Apr 28, 10 | 9:25 am
Charles Kuo

Total Topics: 43
Total Posts: 222
Hi Herman,

That's amazing. 300 euros is quite a bargain for a custom guitar. I am finishing up my 2nd kit and it cost at least twice that. I imagine building a few of these would be a great way to learn.

-Charles

Apr 28, 10 | 12:34 pm
Tony_in_NYC

Total Topics: 29
Total Posts: 448
Great work Herman! Did the kit come with the maple binding or was that your idea?
It looks outstanding!

Apr 28, 10 | 8:29 pm
Herman

Total Topics: 38
Total Posts: 480
Thanks Tony. The binding came with the kit.

AND: The unexpected happened. I did sell the guitar on an internet marketsite to a man named Odin. He has several guitars and is a better player than me by far. After he had taken it home he compared it with his other guitars and wrote me he likes the OM very much and thinks the OM has the best playability of them all. He wants me to built him another guitar in the future. Wow.

I'm very glad the OM came to someone who really appreciates all the work it has in it.

Last night Odin made some samples and this is one you might like:

members.chello.nl/g.arendsen/OM1-%202a.mp3

Jul 05, 10 | 11:14 am
dviss

Total Topics: 18
Total Posts: 165
Congratulations on your first sale Herman.

Lovely tune there!
And what a feeling to know that he wants you to build him another!


Jul 05, 10 | 12:25 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

Total Topics: 84
Total Posts: 981
Wow Herman,
She does sound very fine. Too bad Bill doesn't have anymore of those kits to sell.....
What are you working on now?

Kevin

Jul 05, 10 | 9:07 pm
Bill Cory

Total Topics: 158
Total Posts: 3584
Yes, I wishI could get some more of those kits, but ... just imagine the problems of having kits made in China and shipped here -- replacement of defective parts ... breakages ... materials not up to expectations ... these ere some of the reasons I didn't proceed with the project. But I am glad this kit went to Herman (it was one of three I offered here at a low price and with no "guarantees").

Herman, you did a beautiful job of building the kit and solving several problems, and Odin plays it well. I really like that tune! (The day Herman sent it to me, I was at Phantom Ranch, at the bottom of Grand Canyon, and the tune brings back that memory somehow. Phantom Ranch is one of my favorite places of all time.)

Bill
Back from Grand Canyon.
Hiked North Rim to South Rim with wife and daughter.
Great trip.
Relationships intact and knees sore!

Jul 09, 10 | 7:12 am
RayRay

Total Topics: 21
Total Posts: 190
Great Job! Herman.
Bill, I can see where that tune would relate to the place...dang it! :)

Jul 09, 10 | 7:31 pm
Adaboy

Total Topics: 64
Total Posts: 509
What is the name of that tune? I love it!

This guitar sounds freat Herman!!!

Jul 12, 10 | 9:25 am
PJ

Total Topics: 12
Total Posts: 90
Herman - it may be an El Cheapo kit, but there's nothing cheap about the finished product or the sound. Good job, man!

Jul 12, 10 | 11:50 pm
Adaboy

Total Topics: 64
Total Posts: 509
I'll bet this guitar has better quality wood than 90% of the factory guitars out there.

Jul 17, 10 | 8:46 am
Herman

Total Topics: 38
Total Posts: 480
The tune has no name it is just improvised.
And about the quality: Some woods weren't that great. I lost the bracewood and the fingerboard. But the back and sides are very good.
And compared to factoryguitars I think It would be a top 10 position in the 500 dollar range. But that's just a whishful thought. Odin is happy with it and that is what's counting I guess.

Jul 18, 10 | 2:59 am
Bill Cory

Total Topics: 158
Total Posts: 3584
Herman -- imagine if I had sold that kit to a first-time builder - the fretboard wasn't good, the braces weren't good, etc ... That was the reason I decided against trying to import them in quantity; it would have been a disservice to any new builder.

Your expertise, gained from the other guitars you've built so well, allowed you to make the adjustments and substitutions required to turn out a very nice little guitar that sounds great in Odin's hands.

Bill

Jul 18, 10 | 8:32 am



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