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Going to Start Building Today
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missedmyexit

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Got my KMG Success kit tool portion a couple days ago. Last night went and picked up the tools I didn't already own and tonight I will begin building/putting together the mold. Can't wait to get started, been planning this for a long time and finally able to start putting the plan into motion. I will of course keep everyone updated on my progress.


Mar 03, 10 | 5:49 am
Bill Cory

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Keith -- Enjoy the process!

Bill

Mar 03, 10 | 5:58 am
naccoachbob

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Total Posts: 257
Good luck, and have fun.

Mar 03, 10 | 8:05 am
Tony_in_NYC

Total Topics: 29
Total Posts: 448
Nice! You will find building to be a very rewarding process. I think most people on this forum would agree that they are completely hooked on building now! I know I am. I am working on KMG kit #2 right now.
A word of advice about assembling the mold, be very slow and methodical when you assemble it. Check for square all of the time and take care when sanding the inside of it. I over sanded the neck block area and I have to shim my mold when gluing the neck blocks. I will one day make a permanant fix since the mold will last a long time. But not today! I am too busy building!!
Enjoy the build and do post pics as you go along.
Oh yes, one final thing, always, ALWAYS ask Ken Cierp or the fine folks here for help if you think you messed up. Never try to fix things on your own if you are unsure how it will affect future steps because it probably will and could cause you major headaches down the line.

Mar 03, 10 | 10:55 am
Ken C

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Total Posts: 554
Welcome Keith and enjoy the experience. It's a great ride! You hooked up with a great guy in Ken Cierp. He's the guy that supplied my mold and several tools to get me through my first build as well.

Ken

Mar 05, 10 | 4:17 pm
missedmyexit

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Total Posts: 18
I've been making some progress, made some mistakes but with Ken's help was able to work through them.

Sorry for the poor picture quality they were all taken with the IPHONE which isn't the greatest digital camera.

Gluing the tailblock



Reverse Kerfing


Notice anything wrong with this picture?


Yup damn kerfing is upside down which mean that I head to heat up and chip off all of it and re-install it right side up. Bad news, it wasn't fun, good news, I can tell you I will never make that mistake again!

Gluing side braces




Rosette installed, was a very tight fit


Top Braces almost completed shaping


Top glued and drying center brace being glued


back braces on











Apr 26, 10 | 11:20 am
missedmyexit

Total Topics: 7
Total Posts: 18


Soundport


Back glued not bound


Routed the back too deeply by accident, ken hooked me up with some material to make it look like I did it on purpose.





More of binding and soundport




Apr 26, 10 | 11:24 am
Tony_in_NYC

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Looking good! Even with the iPhone pics! How about getting some higher res pics up here?

Apr 26, 10 | 1:23 pm
Ken Hundley

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Looks good so far! I would consider some very thin braces across the design in your sound port that go cross-grain to the rosewood. That is now a weak area on a curve, an an area that can easily be impacted on the guitar with detrimental effects. A small, hidden cross brace behind will immensly strengthen the area. Don't ask me how I know this.

Apr 26, 10 | 1:59 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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Total Posts: 981
Keith,
You have made grand progress! Good job. What symbol is the sound port?

Kevin

Apr 26, 10 | 2:06 pm
Tony_in_NYC

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Ken Hundley, How do you know the area is weakened? LOL

Apr 26, 10 | 2:14 pm
missedmyexit

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There is a brace going across the sound port on the top of the M which is what the symbol is supposed to be. It was supposed to mimic my headstock design M but didn't work out as well as I thought.


Apr 27, 10 | 4:26 am
missedmyexit

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Total Posts: 18
Got the top binding installed this weekend

shot of the tail wedge


May 03, 10 | 6:26 am
Running Dog

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Total Posts: 103
Very impressive first effort -- makes my early guitars look terrible in comparison!

I'm curious why you have two fingers on the bass side and none on the treble? Was this your modification or was it suggested by someone?

Nice work!

Rick
Running Dog Guitars

May 03, 10 | 7:23 pm
Tony_in_NYC

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Nice catch Rick. I didnt notice that at all. I wonder what that would do to the sound.

May 04, 10 | 3:20 am
missedmyexit

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Total Posts: 18
It's my totally radical new design that is going to revolutionize bracing...... I call it the DOH! I didn't see the layout on the top so thought that there was a reason they weren't marked. At the time I remember noticing it and pretty sure I googled bracing and found a picture of bracing with them missing, so I continued on thinking it had something to do with the shape, size of the guitar.

Do will this make it brighter? Do I have to worry about cracks? Would it be worth it to toss a popscile style brace in there just to help prevent cracking?

May 04, 10 | 5:22 am
Running Dog

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I'm sort of relieved to find it was a mistake -- I couldn't fathom any reason for it. I'd let it go and see what happens. Probably won't be wildly different, maybe lose a little bass response, maybe a little volume, but hey! You'll never know. I doubt that it's going to affect the structure of the guitar and if it does, I'd make up a nice little carved finger similar to the others and glue it in using either internal jacks or magnets for clamping pressure.

May 04, 10 | 10:13 am
missedmyexit

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Total Posts: 18
My guess is it would make the guitar louder if anything since bracing is thought of as a balancing act between holding the top together and allowing it to vibrate. It might make the guitar sound brighter? I am not going to change it for now, once I get her all finished and strung up I'll take a listen and decide if I want to change her voice. Might be a intrestesting experiment to record the guitar without the finger braces then with them installed to see if anyone can here a difference. I am still a ways off from stringing her up though so it will be awhile.

May 05, 10 | 6:25 am
Running Dog

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Bracing is more than "holding the top together and allowing it to vibrate." It controls the manner in which the top vibrates. Braces also contribute to the distribution of vibration across the top -- lower damping along the grain than across -- and so can contribute to volume as well as tone. I think that the fingers serve this function more than they serve to distribute the torque of the bridge and to resist deformation.

May 05, 10 | 8:58 am
jparchem

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Total Posts: 9
I hope the photos work

No wood working experience, very few tools why not try to build my own classical guitar from a kit? I am a voracious reader , so I ordered and read about five different build your own guitar books and I watched the DVD that came with my LMI kit. Even though all of the builders were basically building the same guitar, each had a unique and at times very different process. No problem that just means one has a lot of freedom in how to build. Maybe less so in what gets build.
To get started I bought some tools and got to work on a solera and a matching clam shaped mold.


I was a little stressed out about the 25’ radius in the lower bout, but my wife used her cad system to draw me a template to build a radius stick. I also bought a couple of disks to use later in the build.
I bought a serviced kit so I had a neck, but the slots still needed to be completed (that was a surprise) and the headstock had to be cut. Maybe my new circular saw was not the best tool to use to slot the neck, but I had a blade with the correct sized kerf, and a few bits of wood to make the neck square to the table … I survived with only a bit of a nick in the inside edge.

The headstock really was hard for me. I made 4 templates until I had on I liked and I made a few practice runs on the router with plywood and MDF. Unfortunately when making it on the real neck, the side of the neck chipped out a bit (I really need to understand the direction of the grain). I nearly panicked until I remembered that the headstock was wider than I wanted. So I went back to the drawing table drew a shape on the headstock and carved it with chisels finished with cabinet scrappers.
It turned out ok


With only a few more hours of panic “trimming and cutting the sides to shape” I managed to get the end block and the neck glued into place. We will see where it goes from here.







May 17, 10 | 7:26 pm
jparchem

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May 17, 10 | 8:07 pm
missedmyexit

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Total Posts: 18


Got the headstock inlayed and have begun the finishing.





The plan, two coats Deft sanding sealer, 3 coats of Target clear pour filler (done) 12ish coats of Behlen rattle can lacquer (in process). Then some polishing. Getting close to the end of a 4 month journey!

Jun 24, 10 | 9:24 am
Kevin Sjostrand

Total Topics: 84
Total Posts: 981
Keith,
It is looking good. I use Deft Lacquer rattle cans and have had very good results, should go good for you. I like your headstock!

Kevin

Jun 24, 10 | 9:27 am



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