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Beginning of 100 dollar challenge, Kind of!
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DanB

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A little while back I was talking about trying that 100 dollar challenge and I finally got around to starting, but it's almost down to a month and a half deadline so I don't even know if I'll try for that, but I'm still interested in doing for myself to see what turns out of it, although I may not be near as strict on the rules now, and won't count the budget on reject parts like fretboards and bridges and what not that I have.

Anyways, my plan to try for was to buy an 1"x8"x8' mahogany board from Menards for 25 bucks. I should have taken a picture of the board to start, but I forgot to before hand, so all I've got is what I ripped it into. I first cut off 2' of the board and ripped 2 inches off the side of it, so it was 1"x6"x6'. Then I ripped the 1" side down into 3rds. The first rip of the 6 foot board I cut in half for my sides, so it's 36"x6". And then the other 6 foot rips I cut into 2 foot long pieces, so there were 6 total 6"x2' boards. 3 of each made a top and a back.

The top will be ugly because it's not book matched, and nothing I have is quarter sawn, for the price I'm just running with it to see what happens. The back I'm doing a 3 piece back with, you can see the wedge cut out for the center, and I'm going to do a b/w/b purfling on each of the joints.

The part where I'm going to break the normal rules of the 100 dollar challenge, is I'm not going to factor the price of extra things I have from previous builds, or anything that was flawed/rejected that I have laying around that I'll make use of. For example, from the past 2 guitars I build, I have 2 pieces of sitka bracewood left over, that I am not going to count for the cost of this because I had already factored that cost into another, I know cheating but I'm not going for an actual challenge other than seeing what I'm actually PAYING to build this guitar. If it's left over things, I consider those no cost.

If this build works out, in theory an all solid wood Mahogany guitar should sound decent and be a pretty nice guitar for say... 100 bucks? Besides, I'm waiting on an order for walnut wood now.

Here's the pics: BILL if you feel these take up too much space or what ever, you can delete this post or the pictures if you'd like. I was going to keep posting new pictures of what I'm doing on here UNLESS you tell me otherwise.










-BILL if you feel these take up too much space or what ever, you can delete this post or the pictures if you'd like. I was going to keep posting new pictures of what I'm doing on here UNLESS you tell me otherwise.

Dan

Jan 26, 10 | 8:35 pm
Ken Hundley

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I don't think the top will look ugly at all, Dan, and I also agree with your reasoning. Leftovers and rejects have no cost associated with them....as you said, they were scrap cut away from another build, or deemed unacceptable and added to an order already paid in full for no extra cost (Dan and I talked about this off line...). I still think you are within the rules as I read them.

Suggestion......take the peice in the picture above on the left....make that your center, then flank it with the other two. Might look more symmetrical that way.

I'm jealous...I keep thinkng about that project......

Jan 26, 10 | 10:51 pm
Freeman

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Dan, I'll be watching your project along with all the others - I assume I will recognize you as Dan Bxxxxx - at least I'll recognize the pictures.

As I understand the rules, stuff you have laying around you need to give some small value to unless it is truely scrap - I see a lot of the folks claiming a buck here or there for this kind of material.

The rules for posting pictures at MIMF are a little weird, but once you figure it out it isn't too bad. Good luck and have fun!

Jan 27, 10 | 5:44 am
enalnitram (Martin Lane)

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Total Posts: 332
"The top will be ugly because it's not book matched"

Not if you paint it ... Let your freak flag fly!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2516/3887088809_9185f40387.jpg

I have never seen an acoustic that has Van Halenish stripes. You could be the first! well, ... come to think of it, that would be pretty ugly.




Jan 27, 10 | 6:00 am
DanB

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Freeman, I haven't decided if I was actually officially even going to go on the MIMF. I didn't think I'd be able to finish in time for that, and the incentive to do it on that site is basically the same as this one here, it's just a cool challenge, and I don't have to be as strict with their rules on here like I was saying.

I'd like to just see what I can come up with for low cost, and it's basically going to be my first scratch build, or trial run if you will.

Dan

Jan 27, 10 | 6:42 am
Freeman

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Understand, Dan. I was thinking about trying something off the wall and entering it, but just ordered some parts for my next one and it is going to be the $1000 challenge guitar - a set of three 6" NRP cones alone was well over the hundred dollar mark.

Jan 28, 10 | 6:41 am
DanB

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I've been working on this project a little bit more, and waiting on a heating blanket to bend the sides. Since I've been waiting I'm working on getting the top and back ready.

I plan to cut out the end/neck block out of the 2 foot of board I have left over from the 8 foot total board all of this is out of, and also rip all of my bracing down and shape them while I'm in the highschool shop the same day.

Here's a couple pictures of my joined top/back and rosette. I know the wood grains are not pretty, the top isn't bookmatched nor is all the grain going the same direction, there were flaws in each piece of the wood that I found the only possible way to glue them together was in that way. The back I just glued together with maple bindings as strips in the back because I only found 1 piece of purling laying around and didn't feel like buying/waiting for more, so if that turns out boring/unattractive oh well, I'm hoping when I bind it with maple bindings it will draw it together a little, but we'll see.

By the way, the greyish colored grain strip on the right side of the wedge in the back doesn't show through, I've got what will be my outside of the back all ripped up looking and it needs to be milled and smoothed out yet so I took a picture of the inside of it which is a little less attractive because of that strip.









Feb 03, 10 | 8:20 pm
DanB

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I forgot to add my total so far is:

25.00 for the mahogany board
10.00 for the shell rosette = 35.00 so far

I may go past the 100 dollar mark because I'm not too strict on the rules, and I may not 100 percent shortcut the prices because there isn't a complete need to since I'm doing this for my own satisfaction. If I would have started the build in time, I would have done a solid wood rosette and cut it out myself, and probably not used any bindings, which I'm going to use maple, which will also be an unnessicary cost.

Dan

Feb 03, 10 | 8:31 pm
Ken Hundley

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Hey Dan, you could color the top like I did on my zebra if the grain doesn't work out that well. Black analine die is not expensive, and loogs good. The following isn't the best photo, but it will look fantastic when it is complete:



Or even come up with a cappachino brown or something....

Feb 03, 10 | 9:50 pm
DanB

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Total Posts: 272
I'm curious to see how that Zebra wood guitar turns out, that black does actually look really cool on there.

I'll probably just leave mine natural color and probably not color or die anything because of what it is. I'd almost rather leave it evident that all of it actually did come from 1 piece of wood. Plus it sort of gives it character, and this guitar could be perfect for the backpacker beater guitar I need.

Ken, I'm beginning to turn into you a little bit. I've got 2 guitars waiting to be finished in spring or so, and I've got this 100 dollar build going on, and I've got 3 other guitars of wood on the way. I'm going to be BUSY... Haha. When spring comes around there will be like 6 guitars to finish, and that's the part I like the least!! Hah.

Dan

Feb 04, 10 | 9:45 am
DanB

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Here's the board before I had touched it. 8'x8"x1"




Feb 04, 10 | 1:54 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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Total Posts: 981
Dan, Is that Luan mahogany? What is often used for flooring?

Kevin

Feb 04, 10 | 4:44 pm
DanB

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Total Posts: 272
I don't know, it just said Mahogany on it and it was cheap enough and worth experimenting with as far as sawing my own stuff, and doing my first scratch kit.

Dan

Feb 04, 10 | 7:55 pm
Ken Hundley

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Total Posts: 2169
Dan, nothin wrong with bein me, I rather like it. Just keep yourself more organized than I do. Besides, it'll keep your collarbone healthy ;)

Feb 04, 10 | 8:56 pm
DanB

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Total Posts: 272
I also don't have kids running around to tend after, and a wife that'd might get upset if I didn't pull myself from the guitars at some point in time. So there's my extra time to invest into it, although I'm not looking forward to potentially finishing 6 guitars at once in the spring, I didn't like finishing 1 guitar as it was. Hah.

Tonight I thickness sanded the top/back and cut out the rough guitar profile and traced the bracing on the backs of them. Tomorrow morning I'm going into the highschool to rip down my braces and shape them in the shop, and cut out neck/end blocks out of the wood still left over from the board. Afterwards, I should have a heating blanket delivered by UPS by then, and I can go ahead and bend my sides and so tomorrow I should have the rim glued up and potentially the top (and/or, depending on how early I get started) back bracing glued.

Aside from not having kerfing, this guitar would be a completed shell by the end of the weekend.

Dan

Feb 04, 10 | 9:04 pm
dviss

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Total Posts: 165
How's this coming Dan? And might I ask where you picked up that rosette for $10?

Darren

Mar 09, 10 | 1:19 pm



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