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Please Advise Me On This Peghead Design
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Bill Cory

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I'm designing a peghead for a guitar I'm building for my son. I need to know what this design reminds you guys of -- is it too much like somebody else's? This template is exact size and shape, etc. Tell me what you think -- if it looks like some factory guitar out there ... Thanks - Bill


Nov 13, 09 | 8:50 am
FredB

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Bill,
I like the headstock design. It is similar to the headstock design of Heritage Guitars. Yours is less curved from the mid-point at the top to the sides, however.
Fred B

Nov 13, 09 | 9:10 am
Ken Cierp

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Looks good! I like the practicality of the inboard taper (string clearance) -- My headstocks have this feature as well.



Itís pretty difficult to come up with something that is totally original --- so I guess they are all variations.

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978

Nov 13, 09 | 9:46 am
Bill Cory

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Thanks guys -- Yeah, that's true, Ken. There are some design requirements that have to be handled, plus the basic shape is more or less a necessity. I just didn't want to be copying anybody in particular. Mine sure looks like the Heritage design, which I had never seen before. Hmmm.

Bill

Nov 13, 09 | 12:07 pm
Ken C

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Hi Bill, I agree, really tough to come up with something entirely original. Your design looks good. I went through this process a year ago, looking at dozens of pegheads. I borrowed much when designing mine, which not surprisingly varies only slightly from yours and Ken Cierp's.

I haven't figured out a good way to bind mine because of the scallops at the top corners, kind of like Ken's. A plus for your design is that binding the headstock wouldn't require any bending.

Ken




Nov 13, 09 | 2:29 pm
Herman

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Hey Bill,

It does not remind me of any factoryguitar over here. So it would be quite unique. Like Ken wrote a little more taper gives pratical advantages. And it would look less bold , more elegant. But you know, all these things are very subjective.

Nov 14, 09 | 11:26 am
Bill Cory

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Yes, that is so true -- subjective is the thing. I decided after seeing Ken C's, that I prefer a more curved look rather than the angular treatment. I have changed the design, and with apologies to Ken Cierp if it's too much like his design, here it is. It won't be easy to put a binding on it, but I'm planning on this one to laminate a fiber layer between the headplate and headstock, instead of a binding.



Of course, I might change it again tomorrow, though I wanted to finish this one to be a Christmas present!

Nov 14, 09 | 3:23 pm
Ken C

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Bill, I have used a .02" maple laminate on all my headstocks post the first build. It does add a bit of class, and I have been happy enough doing that so far. I think you'll like your new peghead! I had a fun time designing mine and got a lot of satisfaction seeing it on the finished guitar.

Ken

Nov 14, 09 | 3:47 pm
Herman

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Bill,

The curved binding is not that hard. I did a few Les paul heads with plastic binding. With a little heat you can make very tight curves. With wood it is more harder to do.



If you take ABS-plastic you can coverup the joints with a bit of acetone. That melts the plastic and with a bit of luck the joints are almost invisable.

When binding the headplate before gluing you can easily add a veneer under the plate.
Extra chique.

Nov 15, 09 | 2:42 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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Hey Bill,
Howdy from Goa, India!
I like your original template design better! I also like it better than the Heritage design, but then I don't know that I've seen a peghead I didn't like, except perhaps Martins....too plain! Both of what you are showing are nice.
Can it look okay to bind the peghead, but not the fretboard?

Kevin

Nov 16, 09 | 6:11 pm
Bill Cory

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Hey Kevin -- Hope the trip is going well! Thanks for the comments. I'm still on the fence about the design... hung up now with trying to pore fill that mahogany body!

Bill

Nov 17, 09 | 5:15 am
Rick

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Bill I have to go with Kevin. #1 looks better with the point and minor curves at the top. Also gives you a little more room for headstock inlay if you are going to add any.

Rick

Nov 17, 09 | 10:06 am
Ken Hundley

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I am having the hardest time myself, Bill, coming up with a "signature" design. I feel for you. All the ones I have designed that I like are very curvy, and tough to replicate easily and accurately, and just have not come out right in my scrap attempts. I like either one of yours....both have their good sides. As I said, I have a hard time making long curves look good.....maybe just impatient on sanding and shaping, so I would tend to lean towards straighter cuts.

Ken C, scary, we think alike....must be the name!

I really don't have any great pictures of the headstock on my first from 2005, I hadn't even thought of inlaying it, but it is the same design. I cut notched the corners of the basic Martin style headstock!

Nov 17, 09 | 2:28 pm
Ken C

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Ken,

I hear ya on the signature. I have been noodling that for months. I thought of using my rising trout as the logo, but you just don't see reputable builders using anything but their name. Yeah, there a few exceptions, but those are rare. I hope to have a nice pearl signature ready by the time I inlay the headstock on my J-185.

KEn

Nov 17, 09 | 6:53 pm
Ken Hundley

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Use the trout! It's you! If you used your initals, people might think you were a big hitter at Kentucky Fried Chicken, so use the trout! I have my new Nocturnal Guitar logo....tough to do in pearl, but looks pretty good. Its the whole headplate I have trouble with.

Nov 17, 09 | 10:46 pm
Herman

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Yeah Ken, use the trout. It"s unique, recognizable and very attractive. I too am still searching for a more sustainable logo. Maybe you found yours.
Sorry Bill, this threat is going offroad.

Nov 18, 09 | 12:41 am
Ken Cierp

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The artist is Ken Casper -- let that be known -- fishing, cats, dogs, golf may be stuff you or the buyer might like -- but put those decorations elsewhere on the project $.02.

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978


Nov 18, 09 | 4:25 am
Ken C

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I am with Ken Cierp on this one. I spent a lot of time designing that trout and really like it. It is one of a half dozen flyfishing related inlays on that guitar. But I am going with Casper or K Casper on the headstock for the very reason Ken states. I am not going to be a big seller of guitars, but if someone sees one of my guitars, I want my name to stick in their head and not the fish. I may end up using the trout as a fret marker or perhaps on the back of the headstock or not at all. I may be able to sell a few guitars to flyfishermen and reuse all my inlays! Who knows?

Thanks for the input, though, gents!

Ken




Nov 18, 09 | 5:03 am
Bill Cory

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Call me contrarian. I like the rising trout. Remember that Michael Bashkin uses no logo or name on his headstocks, relying on his design characteristics to identify his guitars. It works for him.

As Herman said up above, this is a subjective thing. We have to be happy about it ourselves, like we have to enjoy our playing of our own guitars -- even if others don't. So, there aren't any rules, unless we decide there are ...

edited -- found some high-res pics of Paul's beauty!

Bill

Nov 18, 09 | 5:21 am
Ken Hundley

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I forgot to say hey there to Kevin....hope you're havin a great trip to India.

Nov 18, 09 | 12:37 pm
Adaboy

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This subject certainly is subjective. I'm more traditional and doubt I will stray far from the classic simplicity of Martin's shape. A lot of bluegrass players want to stay traditional.

As far non-traditional shapes, I like Ovation's headstock design. Bet it wouldn't be easy to bind.

Nov 18, 09 | 3:27 pm
Ken Hundley

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I like it too. The problem is, they used it....he he.

Nov 18, 09 | 5:54 pm
Kevin Sjostrand

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Hey Ken,
We are really enjoying ourselves, seeing our grandkids is always a great joy.
I would love to use my last name as the peghead inlay, but there is no way I am going to be able to cut out "Sjostrand", more over inlay it. Not going to happen. I like using peghead overlay that matches the body wood, and I can see that it will not be easy to get a clean inlay in some of these woods versus using Ebony.
I came up with my peghead shape, then saw MY design in use by I think it is Takamine.....not sure, but some factory guitar is already using my shape!!!
:>)

Kevin

Nov 18, 09 | 10:01 pm
Herman

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Kevin, If you desperate want your name in pearl, and you want to pay for it, I'll bet there are some Vietnamese who can make it for you. Lasercut, or whatever.
Maybe give Andy DePaule a call. Hear what he is charging for something like that. Could be expensive, but if you want it......

Nov 19, 09 | 12:30 am
Herman

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www.luthiersupply.com/customlogopage.html

Nov 19, 09 | 12:36 am
Ken Hundley

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How about Sj? Unique enough, kinda cool?

Nov 19, 09 | 11:28 am
Kevin Sjostrand

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Herman,
I am buying my current premade inlay from Andy, I should check with him. I am most concerned about doing the actual inlay though.
Ken, I started out considering using a script font SJ, but had the same concern about inlaying it. If I was using Ebony pegheads I would try it, but I like the peghead matching the b & s.
Am I too chicken??

Nov 20, 09 | 1:56 am
Herman

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Maybe, maybe not. You will know as soon as you try it. Inlaying in rosewood is more difficult as you cannot hide gaps as in ebony. But you will gain skill when you do it. Give it a try! If the chicken is too big, smash it with a piece of scrapwood you laid in.

Nov 20, 09 | 3:54 am
Bill Cory

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I have been practicing cutting rosewood in preparation for inlaying these three designs into the peghead and fretboard of my son's guitar. I have to admit, I'm not doing very well. I hope the Chinese characters still mean the same thing they should when I am finished. Fingers crossed. The ChiRho Greek symbol (called the "Labarum") will go on the peghead, and the characters on the 5th and 12th frets.



Any tips and suggestions? All are welcome!

Bill

Nov 20, 09 | 6:25 am
Ken C

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Bill, I don't know how you are cutting the patterns. One thing I'd reccomend is rather than cut a solid figure like the white of your pattern, I'd trace the image and use the finest line possible. I would then stick that pattern to the piece to be cut and use my jewelers saw to cut the line. For some reason, it is much easier for me to follow a single very thin line than weave back and forth between solid and dark.

If your images are on the computer, use a program to trace the image with a very fine line. If you don't have the ability on your computer, enlarge the image up on a copy machine, trace it with a very dark pencil or pen, then shrink the tracing back down.

Only other tip is to keep your cutting strokes as vertical as possible.

Ken

Nov 20, 09 | 4:21 pm



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