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Behlen Jet Spray Clear Lacquer - Satin
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000lover

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http://grizzly.amazonwebstore.com/Behlen-H3903-Jet-Spray153-Clear-Lacquer/M/B0000DD5YL.htm

Any advice? Do these go over de-waxed shellac as a seal coat ok? How many coats does it usually take when using spray canned lacquers?

Sep 16, 09 | 2:31 pm
Ken Cierp

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I would recommend using the Behlens system and products designed for musical instruments --- you can find that here:

http://www.behlen.co.uk/media/Behlen%20Guitar%20Finishing%20Instructions%20Using%20Aerosols.pdf

The make excellent coating products, used by professional around the world. -- good choice!

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978

Sep 16, 09 | 3:20 pm
RayRay

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Also available from Grizzly here in America at a reduced price either seperately or in a complete kit with full instructions!

http://grizzly.com/products/Behlen-Guitar-Finishing-Kit/T21176

Sep 17, 09 | 6:16 am
000lover

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Thanks Ken! That is a great help.

THis says to sand/pore fill on bare wood/then spray Vinyl Sealer.

If one was going to use shellac as a sealer, would you sand/shellac on bare wood/ pore fill/shellac?

Sep 17, 09 | 6:19 am
Ken Cierp

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The nice thing about shellac is its sticks to everything and everything sticks to it. The problem with shellac is that it tints the wood. So your sanding job has to be even or the finish can look blothy especially on light colored wood (I no longer use shellac for this reason).

For your situation I assume you have applied some shellac, there is no reason you can't do the pore filling over the shellac. Most of the time (when there is no plans to stain the wood) I will apply a wash coat of finish to "prevent" the color in the filler from staining the wood.

Again your situation, you will sand back "all" the pore filler and only leave it in the pores --- most likely all the shellac will be removed as well --- as mentioned above uneven sanding can result in blothes.

Once filled -- apply sealer and so on --- personally I have no use for shellac given the wonderful modern consumer products available today.

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978


Sep 17, 09 | 8:10 am
000lover

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I have acctually just finished my 2nd and am already planing my third's finish. I think I want to venture away from the shellac/truoil. I think I would like to try a satin spray finish but want to do it via aerosol.

I don't think the Behlen Stinged Instrument Lacquer Aerosol comes in satin does it?

I have read that O'Brien said you can finish something with so many coats of regular lacquer (gloss) and then spray the last few coats with satin lacquer. I believe his reasoning for this was that the additives making it satin caused the finish to be softer and this would solve that.

Said all that to ask this, could I finish with Behlen Stinged Instrument Lacquer up to lets say 8 coats then use the Behlen H3903 Jet Spray™ Clear Lacquer - Satin for the last 2 to 4 coats?

Sep 17, 09 | 8:50 am
Ken Cierp

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Sometimes, I don't actually use a satin product but rather stop my rub out/polishing process at the gloss level I want. I found that some of the satin products are not a clear as the gloss versions. I am not sure if all the Behlens lacquers are compatible with each other -- drop a line to their tech support.

Ken

Sep 17, 09 | 9:17 am
000lover

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When you rub it out, and are finished with steel wool and everything, do you use something like Renaissance Wax? Or does that defeat the purpose of satin finish?

Sep 20, 09 | 5:33 pm
Ken Cierp

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I've used very fine steel wool and wool wax which is the same as Murphy's Oil Soap. I finish up with Johnson's Paste wax or Minwax finishing wax.

Ken

Sep 21, 09 | 3:16 pm



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