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sealer on interior
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drembo

Total Topics: 14
Total Posts: 24
Does anyone use a sealer on the inside of the guitar before gluing on the top and back?

Dec 22, 07 | 7:43 am
Ken Cierp

Total Topics: 58
Total Posts: 2262
Yes -- Alvarez Yari and some prominent classical builders.

Ken

www.kennethmichaelguitars.com

Dec 22, 07 | 8:18 am
SteveCourtright

Total Topics: 1
Total Posts: 81
I would think you would have to be careful to not put anything where gluing takes place.

Dec 23, 07 | 12:15 pm
Ken Cierp

Total Topics: 58
Total Posts: 2262
I would tend to agree with you Steve and have actually applied Lacquer in a manner that does not get near the glue joints --- however this guy
Author Overholtzer --luthier and instructor supreme and was a "grand national" classical guitar builder some years back, in his book:

http://tubadave.com/sampleoverholtzer/overholtzer.htm

He has section on "water proofing the wood" !!! "before anything is glued". He used a kerosene and paint thinner mixture on the tops, backs, braces and all. He had some very interest methods many of which were way ahead of their time. In his view "clamps were evil devices" and caused tension in the wood and would only detract from sound quality. The book is quaint, but very interesting.

Ken

Dec 23, 07 | 1:44 pm
SteveCourtright

Total Topics: 1
Total Posts: 81
Interesting, Ken. Thanks for sharing that info. Seems counter to common practice today, but he must have gotten good results to have that reputation!

Dec 24, 07 | 12:40 pm
GuitarBuilder

Total Topics: 2
Total Posts: 18
I think its gonna depend on what kinda glue we are talkin about.
I dont think i would seal anything that you would use tight-bond on.

Dec 26, 07 | 8:22 pm
Ken Cierp

Total Topics: 58
Total Posts: 2262
GB
Again, I have never tried it either -- but Overholtzer was preping/protecting the surface specifically for Titebond. He has a comment about buying the TB glue in 55 gallon drums since 1954. His claim is that the waterproofing prevents the edges of the bracing from puffing up when wet and contracting when the glue drys. Same with the bridge reinforcement. You have to wonder if his guitars are still in one piece. In this same book there is a section regarding the proper prep for Rosewwod --- a soaking and rinsing process for removing the oils. Better glue joint and a superior finish are supposed to be the benefits.

Ken


Dec 27, 07 | 4:03 am
GuitarBuilder

Total Topics: 2
Total Posts: 18
Removing the oils from the glueing surface is definately a necessity. Thats interesting stuff. Thanks I'll check this guy out.

Dec 27, 07 | 6:28 pm



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