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Fret tang nipper on the cheap
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davidmor

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Hey all I just though I might give you a heads up on a great find. I was at my local Radio Shack yesterday and found the Kronus Nibbler on the rack which looks almost exactly like the Stewmac fret tang nipper. The kicker is that RS has them on clearance for $3.97 each. I picked one up, cut a small slot in the top to accept the edge of a fret and tried it out. This thing works great! It cuts clean and easy. If you want to pick one up, check Radio Shack's website first by searching for "nibbler" It is in store only so you need to click on the check your local store link and put in your zip code to see if any store near you has one. This is a smoking deal if you want a nipper but don't want to pay $43 for it.



This is the tool as you get it.



The little slot is the mod I had to make. I cut it with a cutting wheel in my Dremel.



Here is how the fret sits in it to be cut.



The cut fret tang. Sorry about the overexposed picture. Darned flash and shiny fret material!

Mar 23, 07 | 11:39 am
john coste

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WOW - great find, David. I'm stopping by RS tomorrow.

Mar 23, 07 | 5:09 pm
JimW

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Thanks David, this was really useful. Picked one up this morning. All the regular suspects wanted stupid money for one so I hadn't pulled the trigger. Made my day!

Jim

Mar 24, 07 | 5:20 pm
davidmor

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Glad to pass on a great deal when I find them. I am always on the lookout for a less expensive alternative to the costly 'specialty't tools.

Mar 24, 07 | 5:24 pm
Ken Hundley

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Nice Find! Coulda used it on my Dragon, but will work on the OM I am starting in a month or two.

Mar 24, 07 | 8:37 pm
CrowDuck

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At that price might as well buy 2 in case you need to use a different sized fretwire.

CrowDuck

Mar 26, 07 | 3:29 pm
davidmor

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lol, ya know, I almost bought both of them hanging on the rack just for that reason. I still might just have to go do that. I mean for less than $4.00 you really can't go wrong.

Mar 26, 07 | 3:52 pm
john coste

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When I went into my local store, the guy said that this was on sale because it was a discontinued item; they only had two on the shelf at $3.97

Mar 26, 07 | 5:33 pm
Ken Hundley

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I got two of them, one for my dad.

Mar 27, 07 | 10:31 pm
dcbaisden

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thanks got to get one did the search and they have them.
good idea

Mar 28, 07 | 6:18 am
Bill Cory

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I tried here inColorado -- nothing left in the whole state. Hope you're in the East -- the guy told me they sell things out from west to east, usually.

Mar 28, 07 | 7:46 am
davidmor

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Hey Bill,

I know you are in the Springs, but if you want to take a little drive, they have them in the Radio Shack in Elizabeth according to their site. Their number is 303-646-9030. That is roughly 60 miles north of Co Springs. I know the place well, I graduated Elizabeth Sr. High, and lived most of my life if Parker.

Mar 28, 07 | 1:15 pm
Ken Hundley

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Be careful not to cut too deep a groove, or the fret rolls while being cut,a nd only ends up getting half of the tang off. Treat it a little like a nut. File some, then try it. The first one I did was perfect, the second was too deep. I may try to fill it with solder and try again. We'll see. I may just be able to get another one, there's enough radio shacks around here anyway.

Apr 10, 07 | 7:31 am
CrowDuck

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These are all gone from the SF Bay area, but I managed to find some identical at a place named "Computer Brain" in Lincolnwood IL. at around $7 each. This tool is commonly found at stores for electronics and computer supplies.

CrowDuck

Apr 10, 07 | 12:32 pm
Ken Hundley

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Now that I am thinking about it, I may leave the one I cut too deep alone. I am planning on using the large fretwire for my OM, I have played a few guitars with oversized frets and find hitting notes to be a bit easier, not having to press all the way to the fretboard to get the note. I think the deeper groove will accomodate the larger wire.

Apr 11, 07 | 7:40 pm
Ted

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The EXACT same product is sold in Australia at all Dick Smith stores. I picked one up today for $14.00. Not as good as David's price but it is still way cheaper than $43.00. A great find David. My next one is having bindng on the fret board for sure.

Apr 16, 07 | 5:02 am
Ted

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Ha ha, Bill, I know that is out of your control but - Richard Harold Smith is an Australian legend and he prefers to be called Dick.

Apr 16, 07 | 5:07 am
Stuart

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I tried Radio Shack also and they were totally out. I did a Yahoo search and came up with t bunch of them. Not too expensive.

http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?follow-pro=2&vwcatalog=xoxide&query=nibbler&catalog=xoxide&x=0&y=0

May 18, 07 | 2:41 pm
ChanThing

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Hi,

It's still available on the RS web site. Search for "nibbler".

I was lucky enough to find one a local store at the close-out price.

Also, RadioShack has a relatively cheap pair of 6" plier-cutters that claim to be able to cut metal parts flush. Haven't tried it yet, but seems like it will work ok.

-- Chan

Jun 26, 07 | 4:15 pm
SteveC

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I just picked one up today at the discount price at my local RS, they had two in stock. It did not show as being in stock or even as being carried anymore by the website. Just wanted to point this out to people possibly looking on the website and not the actual store.

Jul 24, 07 | 4:48 pm


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Arg...I got the $43 version at Stewmac. :(

Jul 24, 07 | 5:22 pm


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Dang...as it turns out, nibblers are common tools. As usual the luthier site has co-opted a perfectly standard tool used by a blue collar industry and turned it into something ridiculously expensive.Klein Nibbler This one is more expensive but I don't think it needs any mods. It looks like virtually the same tool SM sells for twice the price.

Jul 24, 07 | 6:54 pm
DonB

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"Dang...as it turns out, nibblers are common tools. As usual the luthier site has co-opted a perfectly standard tool used by a blue collar industry and turned it into something ridiculously expensive. Klein Nibbler This one is more expensive but I don't think it needs any mods. It looks like virtually the same tool SM sells for twice the price."

After over a year this is still the cheapest price for these Klein Tools #76011B Nibbler Cutter on the net. $20.25 and they do look identical to SM one. Thanks for the heads up dr!

Don

Aug 30, 08 | 11:21 am
RodN

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In the UK, try www.rapidonline.com
Item no. 86-2150 for the nibbler tool at 4.95

Rod

Sep 07, 08 | 6:05 am
000lover

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Isn't this the same thing?

http://www.amazon.com/Ziotek-Nibbling-Tool/dp/B000BSN28S/ref=pd_cp_hi_3?pf_rd_p=413863601&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0000CBJCT&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0TD89DFTRQQCCTC727DD

Sep 09, 08 | 9:31 am
billyb

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Harbor freight has a hand held nipper.
Anybody tried it for fretting?

Jan 05, 09 | 9:18 am
Bill Cory

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Haven't tried that one.

Jan 05, 09 | 11:47 am
Ken C

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Here are some pics of the Klein nibbler. I modified it and used it over the weekend on my SJ. It worked great.





Ken

Apr 20, 09 | 6:32 pm
DonB

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Hi Ken,
I have the same tool and need to grind a slot in it as well.
What tool did you use to get it so perfect?

Thanks for your time.

Don

Apr 21, 09 | 10:05 am
Ken C

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Hi Don,

I held the piece in a vise and used a Dremel tool with a grinding disc and a steady hand to cut the slot. Took all of 15 minutes to disassemble, cut the slot, and reassemble. The Klein tool cuts through this non stainless fret wire like scissors through paper.

Ken

Apr 21, 09 | 11:11 am
Ken Hundley

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Exactly the way I did it on my diskette nipper. I think I need to add that to the "Tools and Jigs" on my website.

Apr 21, 09 | 4:12 pm
Guitar Hack

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Thanks for the tip. I couldn't find one a Radio Shack but found it on their web site at full price which was about $11 and $19 with shipping. Beats $47 plus shipping from Stew Mac.

Just go to Radio Shacks Web Site and type in "Kronus Nibbler".

Aug 14, 09 | 6:43 pm
Adaboy

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Klein is very well known by electrictricians for producing quality tools. I would guess that the Klein nibbler would reflect that.

Aug 15, 09 | 8:13 am
Ken Cierp

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The Klein Tool Co. was here in Jonesville Michigan, sadly, it is my understanding that it was sold off to an Asian firm ----- the plant is closed.

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978

Aug 15, 09 | 9:34 am
Mike R.

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I saw this on an earlier post and bought one from RS. Great idea, and a bargain. Be sure to do a search on the forum for older post's when you are looking for a tool. There are tons of great money saving ideas on here.
Mike R.

Aug 22, 09 | 9:33 am
Mike R.

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Ken Cierp,
It sickens me to think that Klien tools is gone. I have been using their tools for 40 years. Their linemans pliers are the industry standard. Another great company bites the dust and is moved offshore to make junk. Probably China.
Mike R.

Aug 22, 09 | 9:36 am
DonB

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I have a few Klein tools as well and some of them are older than me. It was a brand I felt comfortable with. I am sorry to see them go.

Aug 22, 09 | 11:12 am
Hugh

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I use a heavy cut off wheel on my dremel.

Aug 22, 09 | 11:43 am
Jim_H

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Hmm..

This site says Klein is still owned and operated by the Klein family. They seem to have gone "International" though. Perhaps they just outgrew their plant there Ken ?

http://www.kleintools.com/about/index-About-Klein-Tools.html

Aug 24, 09 | 10:10 pm
Worm infested and wretched

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can't a fret cutter do the nipping job? and wont have to go thru buying all those tools ...


Apr 12, 10 | 10:02 pm
Mike R.

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No. The fret cutter only cuts the fret off, not the tang. The tang is the part that goes into the slot and keeps the fret from coming loose. When you have binding on the edge of the FB, you have to trim off the tang just a bit, and let the fret lay on top of the FB. There is a picture right above this post.

Apr 13, 10 | 4:18 am
Worm infested and wretched

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actually the guy at SM cuts em all with one cutter just fine. take a look here,

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Fretting_supplies/Shaping_and_crowning/Essential_Fretting_Tool_Kit.html?tab=Video#details

Apr 13, 10 | 11:08 am
Mike R.

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Yes, if you grind the face of the fret cutter flat, you can cut the tang, but it will also need to be filed some to clean it up.......I bought one of the nibblers shown above, online, and only paid $14.95, and it works great......

Apr 13, 10 | 11:50 am
Ken Cierp

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I'd say any of us that have actually tried to use just flush nippers for fretting a bound fingerboard would say "cuts em all with one cutter just fine" is a bit mis-leading. Like Mike implies --- the quailty of the cut with flush nippers is marginal at best. Much work needs to be done to make the wire usable, note that the video is not about a bound board and also that Stew Mac sells a pricey version of the tang cutters which this thread is all about.

No doubt a fine job can result with one tool -- but "economy of effort" has to be factored.

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978

Apr 13, 10 | 12:47 pm
Mike R.

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Very good Ken! I think you said it all..........

Apr 13, 10 | 1:38 pm
Worm infested and wretched

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HUH?
...note that the video is not about a bound board and also that Stew Mac sells a pricey version of the tang cutters which this thread is all about.


there was nothing in there about promoting a tang cutter.
and he does say he uses it for cutting the TANGs.

Apr 13, 10 | 7:19 pm
Worm infested and wretched

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I bought one of the nibblers shown above, online, and only paid $14.95, and it works great......


$15 is a good deal, but i don't seem to be getting it anywhere. are yours Klein's? or the so-called radio shack nibblers?

Apr 13, 10 | 7:22 pm
deadedith

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Does the Harbor Freight nibbler for $7.00 do the job?
Dave B

Apr 13, 10 | 8:50 pm
deadedith

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Actually they carry two models, same price, made by Pittsburgh tools.
any good?
Dave B

Apr 13, 10 | 8:52 pm
Ken Cierp

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WIW

Sometimes it just best for someone to gain experience by making his or her own mistakes -- if you feel your information is valid (and you read these post correctly -- seems you have not) go for it -- note that most of us are here to help and share not to argue.

Dave,

As far as I can tell all the import nipplers are the about the same --- note that the pressed pins have a tendency to work loose and I found that lubing the cutter helps to make them work more smoothly especially on the return stroke when they open.

The Klein style nippers are exactly like the Stew Mac tool and a bit more expensive then the common imports.

Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978

Apr 14, 10 | 2:34 am
Ken Cierp

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Dave,
Looking at the pics above you can see that the Stew Mac nibbler indeed looks to be a modified Klein unit. I have a bunch of the import nibblers -- if not for that I would purchase and modify the one from Klein -- its a much higher quality tool.




Ken

Kenneth Michael Guitars est. 1978

Apr 14, 10 | 2:50 am
deadedith

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Allrighty then. Thanks.
Dave B

Apr 14, 10 | 5:46 am
Worm infested and wretched

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but those were ur wurds, Ken

Apr 14, 10 | 10:22 am
Mike R.

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The first post on this thread was about the "cheap" version of the nibbler that someone found at Radio Shack. They posted this information to help others, so they might save a buck or two. I bought the same one and it works just fine. That is what this website is for. People share expierences with others, to help them. All of the information you read on here may not be factual, but it is posted with good intentions. In Lutherie, there are always alternate methods and different ways to perform a specific task. It is free information for anyone who wants to use it. Thats about it. Nothing worth arguing about, thats for sure. Take the information and use it, or don't use it. I can tell you this. I have learned a bunch from this site. And I don't even build kits. I build from scratch. It is a great site and a wealth of information. I like my nibbler, and I would never have known about it, if not for this thread. I have bought many tools from Stewmac and they are all well made. But if I can save a few bucks, I will. Also, Ken Cierp was dead on when he commented about the video. He has been a great help to me over the past year. He is one of the main contributors to this site, and has a company called KMG. He sells kits and other products for Kit Builders. He also has helpfull information on his website for builders. And all this information is free.......

Apr 14, 10 | 11:13 am
deadedith

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Right on, Mike
Dave B

Apr 14, 10 | 11:22 am
DonB

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Here is a link to the lowest priced Kleins 409-76011b I could find. You may find lower prices elsewhere.
http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-2330/Klein-Tools-76011B-Nibbler/Detail#itemadded

Forums have a way of ruffling feathers but everyone means well or they wouldn't take their valuable time to offer help.

All the information is free to us but it does cost Bill so don't forget to donate what you can, if you can.

Best of luck to all!

Apr 14, 10 | 12:06 pm
Mike R.

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Don B.,
Thanks for the reminder. I just made a donation to Bill.....It's very easy. Go to the homepage and click on "Donate". It takes you right to Paypal..........I hope everyone can donate something to Bill so he can keep this site active. I know that he puts in a lot of time maintaining this site, and we all benifit from it.......Give what you can......

Apr 14, 10 | 1:00 pm
DonB

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That's awesome Mike!

Apr 14, 10 | 2:06 pm
deadedith

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The $6.99 for shipping, though, makes it a few cents more expensive than the home depot price. That seems like a lot for shipping, doesn't it?
Dave B

Apr 14, 10 | 6:04 pm
Worm infested and wretched

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no need for sucking up man.
i was commenting on what he commented.
no arguing;p

peace

Apr 14, 10 | 6:32 pm
Worm infested and wretched

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KLEIN TOOLS 76011B Nibbler Tool


now we're talking
good price, fair shipping cost. thx dude.

Apr 14, 10 | 6:35 pm
DonB

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U r welcome!

Apr 14, 10 | 9:08 pm
deadedith

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I bought and used the Harbor Freight $6.99 nibbler today. Took maybe 30 seconds of hacksaw work to cut the necessary slot. Fretted the entire neck in very little time.
I may have to buy 10 of these nibblers in the time it takes a Klein to wear out, of course. Time will tell.
Dave B

Jun 29, 10 | 6:22 pm



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